These people grind my gears. I'm thinking the WEF is probably the worst forum for governance discussions as the skills for becoming a corporate executive or a professor are not ones that confer sovereign legitimacy. I'm all for founders building things and making money, even getting into politics to serve their respective countries, but leveraging it to tell billions of other people how to live? No thanks.
These tax advocates are really just advocating for a single world regime without competition because they know the real threat to their power is that nobody likes them or wants to live under them, so we take our capital and leave. Their response is to instiute "global" rules so that there is no escape from their unctuous posturing and inevitable oppression. After covid, fighting a war against these assholes and every name on the Davos invitation list is likely the next item on civilization's agenda. They aren't trying to help, they're leveraging crisis' of their own inventions for control. There is no reason to be meek about what a threat WEF has historically and continues to be to peoples rights to self determination.
I remember the anti-globalization movement of the 90s, and it was against these specific WEF people and their phony institutes. It took 9/11 to derail that movement, and thanks to lockdowns co-ordinated through this exact policy shop, those movements are gaining momentum in earnest again, just this time they aren't liberal. Nations were not the reason for the wars of the 19th and 20th centuries, every single one of those wars was started by men who did not respect nations and borders and thought they could get away with it. That's what WEF is.
There are a lot of internet personalities we accept aren't appropriate for mixed company on civil forums like this, and I'd posit that Schwab and his WEF and IMF cronies are as provovactive and polarizing figures as any problematic youtuber. Read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," and you can see the level of co-ordination they use for taking over entire countries. This isn't about trolls and mean tweets, these people are a network in the business of subjugating nations. If you're hearing about it, it's one of their meticulously constructed lies. Take nothing at face value from WEF. They're bad news.
Do you ever wonder if it’s possible that some millionaires actually do want to be taxed more, for the greater good of society? Or are you only able to imagine the shadowy claw-handed cabal of millionaires deceptively arguing for higher taxes so that they can take over the world. I’m serious. How are you so cynical.
>These tax advocates are really just advocating for a single world regime without competition because they know the real threat to their power is that nobody likes them or wants to live under them, so we take our capital and leave.
Most people don't have capital, and most people don't want to leave their country. If the only opposition is the anti-tax rich and people willing to emigrate, I don't think that's going to sufficiently motivate the "war" you're looking for.
In fact, WEF's proposals seems like it would pretty popular among most people who aren't able to move themselves or assets out of the country, because those that do are seen as extractors who have an unfair advantage.
>"IN TAX WE TRUST is a campaign powered by The Patriotic Millionaires, Millionaires For Humanity, and TAX ME NOW."
Everything about this screams inauthentic and produced by some think-tank or policy group. Not just the names of these "organizations", but the quality of the website and the tone of the messaging. I highly doubt a bunch of actual disparate millionaires got together and organically produced this.
I would love to know who is actually responsible for this. I sense it is probably a small handful of people who make these kinds of groups for a living.
It may appear inauthentic but is it really that unlikely that rich people can take on the global wealth mechanics from the position of the poor?
I once saw an interview with a switzer "Tax Me Now" supporter who inherited her wealth without ever having to do anything for it. I guess it's that disconnect to the own wealth, the missing feeling of having deserved it, that enables this stance. Unfortunately, on the other side it means that "geniuses" like Bezos, Musk, etc. may even have a stronger conviction for their good will in human history and project it onto the world.
It's really amusing to watch rich, well-heeled people who know how the money system works believe they can be given a pass just by handing over a few more electronic blips back to a system that can never run short of electronic blips.
No nation needs the tax money of the rich, because the rich are not hiring the people the public sector wants to hire. It's the people that are doing the hiring, and competition for resources with the public sector that need to be taxed. The only operational purpose of taxation is to free up real resources so the public sector can hire them.
Count your money billionaires. We don't need your electronic blips, and we certainly are not going to assuage your guilt for failing to invest in the future.
They will bail the moment they hear negative interest rates on cash or a land value tax.
Negative interest rates on cash would eliminate cash hoarding and prevent the rich from withholding money from the economy which is currently forcing the central bank to loosen monetary policy to keep the money in circulation stable.
A land value tax would absolutely destroy the housing market and stock market because lots of companies (think of franchises like McDonalds) are real estate companies in disguise that let someone else do the work while they own the land and lease it out to subcontractors.
In both cases, the value that was "destroyed" wasn't really there, it was a collectively shared hallucination.
Why don’t these alleged millionaires and billionaires just donate their money to the government? Nothing stops them from doing so today. Here’s info on how to donate to the government:
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/gift/gift.htm
Our current financial system cannot be fixed. Governments need to switch to a new currency based on human effort not perceived value. Further the exchange rate between old currencies and the new should be set by two variables. The govt and a national vote annually
All of these people could avoid being "untaxed" by just not hiring armies of accountants to find and exploit loopholes that allow them to reduce their tax burden.
[+] [-] motohagiography|4 years ago|reply
These tax advocates are really just advocating for a single world regime without competition because they know the real threat to their power is that nobody likes them or wants to live under them, so we take our capital and leave. Their response is to instiute "global" rules so that there is no escape from their unctuous posturing and inevitable oppression. After covid, fighting a war against these assholes and every name on the Davos invitation list is likely the next item on civilization's agenda. They aren't trying to help, they're leveraging crisis' of their own inventions for control. There is no reason to be meek about what a threat WEF has historically and continues to be to peoples rights to self determination.
I remember the anti-globalization movement of the 90s, and it was against these specific WEF people and their phony institutes. It took 9/11 to derail that movement, and thanks to lockdowns co-ordinated through this exact policy shop, those movements are gaining momentum in earnest again, just this time they aren't liberal. Nations were not the reason for the wars of the 19th and 20th centuries, every single one of those wars was started by men who did not respect nations and borders and thought they could get away with it. That's what WEF is.
There are a lot of internet personalities we accept aren't appropriate for mixed company on civil forums like this, and I'd posit that Schwab and his WEF and IMF cronies are as provovactive and polarizing figures as any problematic youtuber. Read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man," and you can see the level of co-ordination they use for taking over entire countries. This isn't about trolls and mean tweets, these people are a network in the business of subjugating nations. If you're hearing about it, it's one of their meticulously constructed lies. Take nothing at face value from WEF. They're bad news.
[+] [-] alecst|4 years ago|reply
[+] [-] fineIllregister|4 years ago|reply
Most people don't have capital, and most people don't want to leave their country. If the only opposition is the anti-tax rich and people willing to emigrate, I don't think that's going to sufficiently motivate the "war" you're looking for.
In fact, WEF's proposals seems like it would pretty popular among most people who aren't able to move themselves or assets out of the country, because those that do are seen as extractors who have an unfair advantage.
[+] [-] tengbretson|4 years ago|reply
I would approach any plan that claims it can decrease inequality via taxes with a highly critical eye.
[+] [-] Hokusai|4 years ago|reply
Progressive taxation is very effective at decreasing inequality. What is your alternative?
[+] [-] BitwiseFool|4 years ago|reply
Everything about this screams inauthentic and produced by some think-tank or policy group. Not just the names of these "organizations", but the quality of the website and the tone of the messaging. I highly doubt a bunch of actual disparate millionaires got together and organically produced this.
I would love to know who is actually responsible for this. I sense it is probably a small handful of people who make these kinds of groups for a living.
[+] [-] 74B5|4 years ago|reply
I once saw an interview with a switzer "Tax Me Now" supporter who inherited her wealth without ever having to do anything for it. I guess it's that disconnect to the own wealth, the missing feeling of having deserved it, that enables this stance. Unfortunately, on the other side it means that "geniuses" like Bezos, Musk, etc. may even have a stronger conviction for their good will in human history and project it onto the world.
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[+] [-] neilwilson|4 years ago|reply
No nation needs the tax money of the rich, because the rich are not hiring the people the public sector wants to hire. It's the people that are doing the hiring, and competition for resources with the public sector that need to be taxed. The only operational purpose of taxation is to free up real resources so the public sector can hire them.
Count your money billionaires. We don't need your electronic blips, and we certainly are not going to assuage your guilt for failing to invest in the future.
We also know how the government's credit card works. https://new-wayland.com/blog/how-the-governments-super-plati...
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[+] [-] imtringued|4 years ago|reply
Negative interest rates on cash would eliminate cash hoarding and prevent the rich from withholding money from the economy which is currently forcing the central bank to loosen monetary policy to keep the money in circulation stable.
A land value tax would absolutely destroy the housing market and stock market because lots of companies (think of franchises like McDonalds) are real estate companies in disguise that let someone else do the work while they own the land and lease it out to subcontractors.
In both cases, the value that was "destroyed" wasn't really there, it was a collectively shared hallucination.
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