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AWS Service Terms: the clause 42.10

116 points| logronoide | 4 years ago |aws.amazon.com | reply

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[+] threatofrain|4 years ago|reply
> 42.10. Acceptable Use; Safety-Critical Systems. Your use of the Lumberyard Materials must comply with the Acceptable Use Policy. The Lumberyard Materials are not intended for use with life-critical or safety-critical systems, such as use in operation of medical equipment, automated transportation systems, autonomous vehicles, aircraft or air traffic control, nuclear facilities, manned spacecraft, or military use in connection with live combat.

> However, this restriction will not apply in the event of the occurrence (certified by the United States Centers for Disease Control or successor body) of a widespread viral infection transmitted via bites or contact with bodily fluids that causes human corpses to reanimate and seek to consume living human flesh, blood, brain or nerve tissue and is likely to result in the fall of organized civilization.

[+] gwd|4 years ago|reply
Unfortunately, if the infection is bacterial, amoebic, or prionic in nature, you'll still have to use something else.
[+] irthomasthomas|4 years ago|reply
That is clearly a joke, which begs the question, what else in this contract is a joke? How is an uneducated man to know the difference?
[+] fhd2|4 years ago|reply
Having worked in a middle sized company with a bunch of lawyers on payroll, I am starstruck how someone got something like this in at a gigantic corporation like Amazon. I'd imagine this to have taken weeks at best. Unless it was the idea of a high level executive of course.
[+] that_guy_iain|4 years ago|reply
"What if we allow it in case of Zombies?"

"Are you serious? Zombies?"

"Well, they say COVID was made in a lab. What other crap do they have in those labs? Better safe than sorry."

"Yea, true."

[+] coolandsmartrr|4 years ago|reply
For the lazy:

> However, this restriction will not apply in the event of the occurrence (certified by the United States Centers for Disease Control or successor body) of a widespread viral infection transmitted via bites or contact with bodily fluids that causes human corpses to reanimate and seek to consume living human flesh, blood, brain or nerve tissue and is likely to result in the fall of organized civilization.

I remember when AWS released Lumberyard and a commenter on HN pointed out the zombie clause. This joke rewards those who reads the fine details.

[+] lifeisstillgood|4 years ago|reply
Was this a Brown M&Ms moment, a trap setup for the lawyers, and simply got through? Or just a sign of how human and laugh a minute Amazon Corporate really is underneath it all?
[+] glenngillen|4 years ago|reply
When I joined AWS in 2017, at some point in your first month you’d do a week long induction program. A cavalcade of rather dry summaries and presentations from different functional areas alongside The usual onboarding and “how stuff works here” educational sessions.

The legal team were easily the highlight. Such an incredibly entertaining group. Literally the only session I remember after all these years too.

[+] abiro|4 years ago|reply
You really have to admire the level of gameplay at AWS. At one stroke:

1. They created a recurring viral (pun not intended) marketing meme.

2. They gained credibility with game devs.

3. Boosted team spirit.

[+] capableweb|4 years ago|reply
What "viral marketing meme" are you talking about, a funny clause in their legal text? Seems like that's a one-time thing mostly, which most people will see through as a marketing gimmick to try to seem less sterile than what the organization is in real-life. I don't see how this can lead to either more credibility with game developers nor boosting the team spirit, both of those are driven by building a really good product that is useful for people (in this case game developers), which judging by the actual product page, it's not really there yet. Until then, credibility will remain where it's at, and so will the team spirit. Don't let one paragraph from the legalese confuse you.
[+] onion2k|4 years ago|reply
They gained credibility with game devs.

Did they though?

[+] tomklein|4 years ago|reply
Glad to know that in such a catastrophical event, the military at least got permission to use Amazon Lumberyard for live combat.
[+] kreeben|4 years ago|reply
During a zombie outbreak, how important is cloud access, really?
[+] globular-toast|4 years ago|reply
I found out about this from my mother. It seems this is being circulated within the boomer conspiracy theory circles. It's funny for people who get the joke, but they have no idea what "Lumberyard Materials" could be. It sounds really scary to them.
[+] PedroBatista|4 years ago|reply
Why are they so sure zombies wouldn't sue them? Also, is the zombie market that big it deserves a explicit mention in the ToS?
[+] throwaway2016a|4 years ago|reply
Well that rules out the Cordyceps infection from the Last of Us
[+] gfykvfyxgc|4 years ago|reply
Seems reasonable. Fairly standard clause I’d think.
[+] karmakaze|4 years ago|reply
Zombies are the lowest form of horror.