[johnnyb9]

> Their choice to not be vaccinated or wear masks results in people we love dying.

It's hard to see how vaccines stop the spread when places like NYC or Israel (some of the most vaccinated places in the world) had record setting numbers in the recent wave.

If vaccines work, shouldn't the "people you love" be vaccinated and thus not impacted by unvaccinated people?

I understand masks can be effective in some cases, but is it really reasonable to demand people wear surgical or N95 masks all the time to prevent "people you love" from getting an illness with a 99.99% survival rate?

[boring_twenties]

> 99.99%

This is an extraordinary claim that runs counter to all available evidence and should be backed up by extraordinary evidence.

[abduhl]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v... indicates that death rate is less than 0.1 per 1000 for omicron. Sample size is high:

Our analyses included 52,297 cases with SGTF (Omicron) and 16,982 cases with non-SGTF (Delta [B.1.617.2]) infections, respectively