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dartdartdart | 4 years ago

Anyone know of any other product offer that will take excess after direct deposit and invest it for you?

I've called Fidelity and Betterment and both do not offer an automated way like wealthfront does. Really sad to see wealthfront being the only player in that space.

Edit: by automated I mean something like "everything over $10k after bills, invest". It takes a couple of clicks per month manually, but it's been pretty relieving not having to do that every month.

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sixminuteabs|4 years ago

[Disclaimer] I'm the founder of farther finance (https://www.farther.com) - the first digital family office.

We offer this to our clients at farther - set a minimum amount to keep in your bank account, everything over set minimum gets swept to your investment accounts and invested based on how you set them up and any relevant regulatory stuff (like max IRA contribution amounts) or goal amounts.

Quick note - We focus on holistic management for pretty significant wealth (compared to the target client for most offerings) and all of the stuff that comes with that - more intricate planning around events, alts, families, collabs with CPAs, attorneys etc. That's best achieved with a hybrid approach - an advisory team boosted by tech - so advisors are part of the deal! If you're interested, feel free to PM me and I'll connect you with one of our advisors.

simonebrunozzi|4 years ago

Do you offer your services only in the US, or also elsewhere (Europe, Asia)?

bwbmr|4 years ago

Betterment had that until a month ago: "Two-Way Cash Sweep", though that swept into their cash reserve account, not the investment accounts. They said that less than 1% of users had it enabled, and so discontinued it.

wilg|4 years ago

This is what is making me want to switch to Wealthfront or something else.

lotsofpulp|4 years ago

Is there really that much utility in automating that? It takes a few clicks to move money from a checking account in Schwab/Fidelity to a target date fund or index ETF.

dymk|4 years ago

There is. Logging into those accounts is a pain in the ass, and requires active effort to remember doing. Automating things like bill-pay, deposits, and other "set it and forget it" tech is the best thing since sliced bread.

all2|4 years ago

I have to remember to do those few clicks, though.

kaesar14|4 years ago

There's utility in automating anything you do manually the exact same way repeatedly and regularly

frankthedog|4 years ago

I have an easy setup that’s close to what you want. From fidelity I got my account and routing number. I took that to my payroll provider (ADP) and changed my direct deposit instructions to send a fixed amount per paycheck to my checking account, and everything over to my fidelity account. I still have to login every two weeks and buy shares with whatever was just deposited but it’s very easy with the app. It looks like that could also be automated, but only for automated buys of mutual funds. I only use ETFs so haven’t played with that portion. This setup works really well for me!

liber8|4 years ago

Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but nearly every bank I've ever used offers this feature. I currently have auto-transfers and auto-investments set up in Fidelity. If you receive a paycheck, you can easily set up Fidelity so that it automatically transfers $xxxx dollars per month to whatever account you like. You can also set up each account to automatically purchase $xxxx dollars worth of whatever equity you want.

dartdartdart|4 years ago

Yeah you're saying x dollars instead of y dollars over z amount. It's a trivial calculation but it's really convenient

dartdartdart|4 years ago

Do you bank with fidelity to be able to do this?

matteotom|4 years ago

If you pay for M1 pro ($125/year) you can set a "smart rule" to automatically transfer above $x from your spend (checking) account to an investment account, and automatically invest it.

clay-dreidels|4 years ago

Swan Bitcoin will automatically convert your USD direct deposit into BTC on the same day, and then transfer your BTC weekly into your cold storage.