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jayspell | 4 years ago

I don't subscribe to Spotify for Neil Young or Jodi Mitchell, but I do for Joe Rogan. If he pulls back we will have no voice bringing alternative views. I really hate the media landscape today with its monochrome set of carefully curated information which is incomplete.

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shepardrtc|4 years ago

> alternative views

I think you mean crackpot views.

> carefully curated information which is incomplete

Its curated because people attempt to confirm and verify the information. Nonsense like Joe Rogan has no verification - instead it has him Googling the subject for a few hours while doing a lot of drugs. To wit, here is a call of his where he discusses the now-debunked bondo ape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__CvmS6uw7E. During the call, an expert phones in and he ridicules her without even listening to anything she has to say.

BitwiseFool|4 years ago

People might not have the appetite to watch Christopher Hitchens, but I submit to you this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcJxN1VlcuA

It's okay to interview "crackpots". There is this pervasive notion that merely letting such people voice their views to a wide audience is a moral hazard. That these people are so obviously wrong that they need to be silenced because the public at-large is so simpleminded they cannot reason for themselves and will ultimately believe whatever is presented to them.

bandyaboot|4 years ago

I think "ridicules" is a bit of an understatement. He continuously shouts her down, mocks, and insults her before cowardly hanging up on her. How people respect this guy, I don't understand.

drcongo|4 years ago

Listening to that, I think it's fairly safe to assume that anyone who listens to him through choice should have their ability to reason for themselves questioned.

kklisura|4 years ago

Not claiming anything, just want to bring more context to the link you posted, since I'm seeing it's being shared all around, with no references what the video is.

The video/audio in question is from September 27, 2005, from the show called _Opie and Anthony_ [1]. The guest was Bill Burr. The full show is here [2], the segment starts at 2:00:17. Also, during that time, it seems that some "mystery apes" were a thing [3].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opie_and_Anthony

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXX0J6d0i6s&t=7217s

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bili_ape

hnburnsy|4 years ago

> Its curated because people attempt to confirm and verify the information

Isn't the Tom Brady retirement news fiasco enough to convince you that most media does not confirm and verify information?

For those not familiar with this...

"NFL Twitter Revels in Tom Brady Retirement Fiasco: ‘Gisele Asked Tom to Take the Garbage Out Now That Hes Retired and Tom Had Second Thought’s Real Quick’"

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-news-twitter-revels-in...

jayspell|4 years ago

When you say crackpot you are referring to a highly published cardiologist and an epidemiologist whose work is used in the vaccine. In the world today actually being expert enough to work on teams that create a vaccine does not give you the status to hold a differing opinion without being labeled a "crackpot".

AnEro|4 years ago

theres a difference in a difference in opinion and putting on the 3-5% of people that disagree and can't bring facts and evidence to the table constantly.

lowkey|4 years ago

I challenge your assertion that between 3-5% of people disagree. Would you stake your life on that claim or is that simply more fake news you are spreading without verifiable sources?

As for Joe Rogan and his controversial guests, one was Dr. Peter McCullough, the most widely published cardiologist in the world. He brought many claims to the podcast - all included citations and verifiable sources - from his grand rounds slides.

Did you watch the podcast so you could criticize it intelligently or are you purely spewing hate based on what you read/heard in MSM? Seems the latter.

r00fus|4 years ago

Are you ignoring the fact that Joe was well-known before Spotify picked him up as exclusive? It's not like he wasn't the biggest name in podcasting pre-Spotify.

What changes is him and Spotify making $$$, not whether his voice being heard or not.

verdverm|4 years ago

Do you think JRE would have remained on YouTube over the pandemic if he hadn't jumped to Spotify?

peteradio|4 years ago

Did he have censor proof assurances from these other platforms? I wonder would the interviews in question have seen the light of day?

yesdocs|4 years ago

We are in a pandemic, which is roughly akin to being in a crowded burning building. When authorities are directing you to an exit, this idiot Joe Rogan stands up and yells on his megaphone that there is an exit in the opposite direction. People are dying because of it. This is not a matter of free speech, or incomplete information, he is killing people. Public streaming services owe it to the public to not endanger them or kill them with misinformation. Rogan podcasts are pure garbage, interviewing fringe and long discredited crackpots in obviously weak attempts to offer ‘alternative’ views in a bid for more viewers. The general public is clearly not equipped to ascertain the difference, and as such he is clearly a danger to the public. It is erroneous to consider Rogan’s podcast as a ‘source’ of information, it’s an entertainment show that wants to believe it’s truthful. It’s not, and your reply proves he’s a danger to society in general. I stand with all artists that are doing what the government should have done months ago, cancel misinformation so we may exit this burning building safely.