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hansendc | 4 years ago

I think the main point is to know the limitations of the technology and to deploy it appropriately. For instance, I don't rely on old-school cruise control to stop for small children, either, even though I engage it in school zones.

This isn't limited to "Tesla-tech". The same rules apply to ALL technology.

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ClumsyPilot|4 years ago

"I think the main point is to know the limitations of the technology and to deploy it appropriately"

Where does Tesla provide a list of such limitations for it's customers, I am sure it would be extensively documented given that lives are at stake ?

Or should I find out those limitations myself, potentially killing a few children in the process?

hansendc|4 years ago

> Where does Tesla provide a list of such limitations for it's customers,

One specific place is first sentence of the FSD Beta welcome email:

"Full Self-Driving is in limited early access Beta and must be used with additional caution. It may do the wrong thing at the worst time, so you must always keep your hands on the wheel and pay extra attention to the road. Do not become complacent."

That's been my experience with it. Right now, the beta doesn't reduce my workload, it increases it. When I want to "just drive", I turn the beta off.

That said, Tesla can and should do more. They need to better frame the capabilities of the system, staring with the silly marketing names.

cbo100|4 years ago

Find them yourself by RTFM maybe?

Tesla puts all the info you need in the owners manual, just like every other manufacturer with automated systems on their cars.

https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-8EA7EF1...

There are dozens of warnings throughout the manual explaining limitations and cautions around using the systems.

Every other car I've owned with the same or similar systems has the same warnings littered throughout the manual.

kllrnohj|4 years ago

> I think the main point is to know the limitations of the technology and to deploy it appropriately.

Such as, for example, by not calling it "autopilot" or "full self driving"?

dkjaudyeqooe|4 years ago

It may work somewhat like airplane autopilot, but the environments are not comparable. A plane has nothing to hit but terrain which is easily identified and almost all other obstacles in the air are transmitting their position.

It's entirely deceptive.

glennpratt|4 years ago

I'll give you FSD, but autopilot makes sense to me as someone familiar with aviation.

snicker7|4 years ago

People intuitively understand the capabilities of cruise control. Can the same be said if FSD?

_ea1k|4 years ago

Given the crashes with cruise control in bad weather, I think the level of understanding is likely fairly similar.

Miner49er|4 years ago

Why would you ever engage cruise control in school zones?

hansendc|4 years ago

I personally have a tendency to match the speed of the cars around me. IMNHO, most cars speed through school zones. I use cruise control as a tool to prevent me from accidentally matching the speed of the cars around me and breaking the school zone speed limit.

_ea1k|4 years ago

To avoid speeding. It can be hard to avoid accidentally speeding by 1-2 mph and enforcement is sometimes zero tolerance.

lkxijlewlf|4 years ago

I live on a road with two schools zones about a mile apart. I have had people pass me in the morning in the school zone! People do.not.care.

EDIT: Fixed "ppl" to "people".

dahfizz|4 years ago

To make sure you aren't speeding?