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33ultra | 4 years ago

Which is a good idea for you. Maybe create or install a nanny-filter.

It is not a good idea for me. If I want official information, I know where to find it.

If I want to read about young men getting a heart attack one week after taking a vaccine, if I want to see how the pandemic is forming in China before going global, if I want to know how Indians combated flu epidemics with flavanoids, then I need to pass by the gate-keepers, and the experts who do not care about my personal health, just that as much people are vaccinated as possible.

But according to you that is not a good idea. I am not allowed to form my own opinion, because you think that opinion is damaging (perhaps even to you). It is a fact that all vaccines in existence increase miscarriages. But, especially after 2020, increasingly hard to find. Please do not think it is a good idea to tell a white lie, so less intelligent people go along with the government. It is not a strong-man, but to me, that is your position. Trying to curb that with feedback and debate, not censorship.

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dwild|4 years ago

> I know where to find it.

Then it will be from known source right? And not from new source like this system is blocking you from, right?

This is against NEW content, from people that are not known.

Once more people see them, once you keep watching them as you believe in them, then yeah that restriction will disappear. There's a reason why this is asking people to subscribe...

33ultra|4 years ago

These downvotes remind me about downvotes 2 years back, when I was here on HackerNews talking about leaky vaccines, vaccination-driven variants of concern, and COVID eventually turning endemic (without or without human intervention), impossible to ever remove.

There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu, and that masks promote xenophobia and do nothing. That must weigh really heavy on their mind, or perhaps they got with (vaccination) program, and if you downvote it quickly, it does not exist to bother your own manipulated decision-making gaffe.

Yes, I am saying a horrible thing: you want to mandate a treatment for non-at-risk people, which can give them permanent damage or even cause death. But what is more concerning? Me saying a horrible thing? Or you condemning a pregnant woman to miscarriage, because the message needs to be that the vaccine is 100% safe?

Stuck between censor-happy left, and anti-science right, and both reduce my right and duty to be an informed citizen.

dwild|4 years ago

> There are people still on HackerNews right now, who were back then talking about overreactions, and it just being a flu,

What? It just being a flu is an argument that I only seen from anti-vax... never been a thing here but would be happy to be proven wrong.

> and that masks promote xenophobia and do nothing.

Never seen this also, could you show me? The best I have seen in the past was that a mask in the wrong hands do no good, which is true when you need 100x more mask than you got, which was the case at the time.

> you want to mandate a treatment for non-at-risk people, which can give them permanent damage or even cause death.

I'm curious how you define non-at-risk people too? Covid was not a risk for them but vaccine was? That's weird how the virus works ;). Whatever you fear from the vaccine, you can fear the same from the virus... except that from the virus, the numbers are incredibly much worse. Why would we use the vaccine if that wasn't the case? We would be stuck with the exact same issues.

monetus|4 years ago

I get the sense you are strung out. - there are way more lurkers than those who comment - a reminder to try not to extrapolate too much from those who do. Hell, I've found myself in arguments with eugenecists on this site. With the weight of viral worries, the megaphone of a public forum has people nervous, you should expect strong reactions to anything negative about vaccines; people perceive negatives more than positives. Just be honest about what you do and don't know, cite sources that you've tried to understand, and take vitriol in stride. The pregnancy thing for instance - now lurkers have to Google things for themselves and may end up on some save the children propaganda site