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ntSean | 4 years ago

This has a fundamentally faulty premise that smartphones and paper are equals in delivering reading material, or that their format is preferable.

Learning platforms such as Duolingo, Brilliant, or Khan Academy very infrequently give you a wall of text to parse. This suggests, that it isn’t a necessity or preferable for comprehension.

So to me, this feels silly. As if someone is complaining that a bike hurts your ability to leisurely move at a walking pace through a park.

Why was there an expectation that it would be more ideal?

Use tools are that are appropriate for the context.

For long form text, use a context that allows you to consume slowly, whether than be an e-book or hard copy.

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dorchadas|4 years ago

> This suggests, that it isn’t a necessity or preferable for comprehension.

Or, it shows that they're trying to get people to stay around and use them more. I actually really doubt Duolingo produces anyone who has true comprehension in reading a passage of text simply because it only ever asks you to translate one-off sentences (and rarely at that, it only has you click words if you're on the app!). I don't think they're optimizing for comprehension and understanding as much as they're optimizing for user engagement.

ntSean|4 years ago

They definitely optimise for user engagement. At first words, then sentences, then passages and short stories.

This pathway has been effective for me, I've been doing Duo for a few months now! Which leaves me lost in your premise of "true comprehension"?

But maybe that would mean this conversion is about semantics rather than us having a "true conversation"

toyg|4 years ago

> a wall of text to parse. This suggests, that it isn’t a necessity or preferable for comprehension.

No, that suggests that those platforms understand the limitations of the medium and try to work around them - with mixed results. They still have to use a modicum of text, they just build other stuff around it to reinforce meaning.

Your critique would be valid if these platforms were not using any text whatsoever - which might well happen at some point, in the distant future, but definitely is not the case now.

ntSean|4 years ago

Ironically I don’t understand why my critique must be framed in an extreme context to be valid!

Must have been because I read this comment from my mobile device. Time to get the printer going ;)