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Tenobrus | 4 years ago

This isn't the case with (long-standing, extremely well tested) ZK technology like Monero, and future applications like privacy-focused ZK rollups. In these chains there's no feasible way to track even single transactions.

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oblio|4 years ago

How does this work with stuff like fraud prevention or tracking? For example, if you get defrauded, who do you sue?

We may joke all we want about it, but there are still laws in place and we need to respect them.

kmashikian|4 years ago

If there's no way to track a transaction, would you even consider this a blockchain given that traceability is such a key ideal to decentralized trust? Interesting perspective from Bankless blog: "What if the real threat is the separation of crypto from crypto values?What if the real threat is the separation of crypto from crypto values?"(https://newsletter.banklesshq.com/p/the-best-argument-agains...)

cleancoder0|4 years ago

I feel like some of these comments are autogenerated from some GPT3 running in the cloud.

Cryptography ensures that transaction amounts, sender, receiver are encrypted. There is no way to decrypt the data. You can verify the encrypted data without decrypting it. Everything works similar to Bitcoin but now you and others have no way of figuring out anything valuable by looking at the blockchain, because everything on the blockchain is just encrypted bytes.

Even the node that is the first one to receive all bytes has no idea who is sending, receiving and the amount. Everything is always encrypted.

When I create a transaction that includes my wallet address and the address that receiver gave me, once the transaction is made, the receiver cannot see the original address of my wallet, the 3rd party cannot see the amounts or addresses in the transaction and the receiver can move the money to a different address and I would have no way of figuring out that happened. Similarly, receiver can send me back the amount and I would have no idea from which wallet address it came.

vlfig|4 years ago

Sigh.

Generally what happens is that: - Everyone is able to prove a transaction's correctness; - There's no way for a third party to track the contents of a transaction adversarialy; - there are ways for first and second parties to prove them if they so wish.