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noetic_techy | 4 years ago

Sorry WP, too little too late.

I don't think the "mainstream" has fully caught on yet, but all those disaffected men are getting nothing from these empty "we see there's a problem" articles and empty half-acknowledgements, because the entire political and academic system is now fully aligned against them.

Lots of men these days are all turning to Red Pill content online whether you agree or not because its the only counter to the "masculinity is toxic" narrative. You better hope that people like Jordan Peterson succeed because his message to men is way more centrist and reasonable (watered down some would say) then the Red Pill elites like Rollo Tomassi, Fresh and Fit, and anyone else in the Rule Zero crowd. I'm sure many of you will gasp in horror if you've never heard of or seen their content on youtube, but realize this IS the backlash and the pendulum swinging the other way. WP and outlets like it (I'm looking at you NYT) created this culture and now you have to live with the backlash. I actually think that the mainstream will catch on to this pretty soon and label it the new boogie man at some point but by then nobody will watch or read their content so it will be too little too late.

Pretty soon the "all masculinity is toxic" crowd are going to find themselves labeled as the "uncool" crowd just as the religious evangelicals who were trying to censor south park back in the 90's were. And the pendulum swings...

I'm homeschooling my own son to keep him sheltered from both sides crazyness and plan to teach him to be a reasonable centrist who doesn't get caught up in dogma.

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stuckinhell|4 years ago

Good god, after reading the comments here. I'm debating having my son home-schooled now too.

I was thinking private school, but its clear there is some kind horror show going on in the US right about indoctrination of political ideologies gone insane.

rpmisms|4 years ago

Anecdotally, Jordan Peterson didn't fix my mental health, but I had a good dad and a sense of direction growing up. He's seriously helped my friends who have absent or abusive fathers. Teaching men about their duties in society and to themselves is crucial.

skinkestek|4 years ago

Another anecdote: Jordan Peterson helped my brother too.

Went from being raging mad at his family and others to start taking responsibility for his own life.

I still disagree with him but we can now speak together.

zppln|4 years ago

This. It kind of reminds me of this meme floating around: "And then one day, for not reason at all, people voted Hitler into power." Having young men who feel they have no future is rarely a good thing for a society...