[shermand89]

Data please? Have you been living under a rock?

There are very intelligent people on HN, but this weird obsession with data and scholarly articles is honestly stupid. We're not talking about events that occurred 100 years ago, we are all living this right NOW!

Personal and eyewitness testimonies count for nothing now? You're going to pretend that data is not manipulated? If you knew any history, you would know how common it is that data is manipulated.

Tell me, do you not see ANYTHING suspicious about what has been going on for the past 3 or even 6 years?

[MauranKilom]

> Personal and eyewitness testimonies count for nothing now?

Can't see your original comment, but assuming this refers to side effects with sub-percent occurrences, then the answer is "no, random testimonies have no statistical significance without a base rate to compare to".

You could put hundreds of people into the same room whose testimonies show that eating bread is deadly - you just have to find enough celiacs. That doesn't make the baking industry a big conspiracy.

[Brakenshire]

> Data please? Have you been living under a rock?

I’d say the same to you, if you didn’t see reports of heart problems before the vaccine were you living under a rock? Either you weren’t reading much or your filter bubble was removing that news, perhaps because the media you were reading was trying to minimise its impact at the time. It was very widely covered where I am. There was even a widely watched documentary in the UK of a well known science/health presenter who had heart problems after a Covid infection in early 2020. You can probably look it, it was called “Surviving the Virus: My Brother & Me“

[gpu_explorer]

> Data please? Have you been living under a rock?

> There are very intelligent people on HN, but this weird obsession with data and scholarly articles is honestly stupid. We're not talking about events that occurred 100 years ago, we are all living this right NOW!

I would just like to see data that supports what you propose in your original remarks. It doesn't have to be an encyclopedia of references. It's okay if there isn't data - I'll just assume you're sharing your opinion (which is totally cool as well of course).