Then don’t use the services. I wouldn’t sign a contract without reading it. “Your honour, I had no time to read the contract, therefore it’s void” seems a bad excuse.
Or society can just treat shitty ToS clauses as invalid because the good of the individual is far more important than being fair to powerful ultra corporations.
Ok it is obvious that there are one of three possible ways you handle terms of service:
1. You do not read any terms of service, like most people, and thus when you end up getting screwed over by a service you will accept that because you should have read the TOS, or perhaps you think the likelihood of you being screwed is minimal so you are willing to take the risk.
2. You read all TOS, do not accept those you disagree with, accept others you agree with.
3. You mix reading and not reading TOS dependent on how central you think they should be to your life, those that are not central you do not read because obviously those that are not central you can afford to have removed at the will of the corporations that own them.
But of course, you stated quite clearly that you wouldn't sign a contract without reading it, this must mean that you are doing number 2. You read every TOS you sign and some of them you refuse. That's great!
It's great because the parent poster you replied to made suppositions about how much time a person who did that would have to put aside to doing it, those were just suppositions though, you possess the cold hard facts and can tell us and them exactly how close their guestimates were, as well as answering the extremely important question as to how you manage your time to have enough of it to read and sign all those TOS, and in the cases where you have decided that a TOS did not fulfill your needs how you have handled it - how do you find services to replace them - have you ever been in a situation where you had to refuse a TOS even though your job may have depended on the usage of the service - how did you handle that?
Sure are a lot of things to find out about here, and finally someone who can help us out.
on edit: from reading further down the thread it seems when you said "I wouldn’t sign a contract without reading it." you actually meant that you would, but you would not complain when the company that you did not read the contract of screwed you over. Well that's sad. So I mean there is absolutely nothing a company could do to you that was not illegal that you would come complain about? Really?
Sometimes it's not about how long does it take to read it, but even how it is interpreted by one of the parties, or if it includes clauses that are unreasonable.
For example, contracts signed by seniors who didn't have the knowledge or mental faculties to understand what they were signing, may be voided.
If you don’t have the legal expertise or the time to read a contract you hire a lawyer to have him see if the contract is reasonable, or you don’t sign it.
anonymousab|4 years ago
bryanrasmussen|4 years ago
1. You do not read any terms of service, like most people, and thus when you end up getting screwed over by a service you will accept that because you should have read the TOS, or perhaps you think the likelihood of you being screwed is minimal so you are willing to take the risk.
2. You read all TOS, do not accept those you disagree with, accept others you agree with.
3. You mix reading and not reading TOS dependent on how central you think they should be to your life, those that are not central you do not read because obviously those that are not central you can afford to have removed at the will of the corporations that own them.
But of course, you stated quite clearly that you wouldn't sign a contract without reading it, this must mean that you are doing number 2. You read every TOS you sign and some of them you refuse. That's great!
It's great because the parent poster you replied to made suppositions about how much time a person who did that would have to put aside to doing it, those were just suppositions though, you possess the cold hard facts and can tell us and them exactly how close their guestimates were, as well as answering the extremely important question as to how you manage your time to have enough of it to read and sign all those TOS, and in the cases where you have decided that a TOS did not fulfill your needs how you have handled it - how do you find services to replace them - have you ever been in a situation where you had to refuse a TOS even though your job may have depended on the usage of the service - how did you handle that?
Sure are a lot of things to find out about here, and finally someone who can help us out.
on edit: from reading further down the thread it seems when you said "I wouldn’t sign a contract without reading it." you actually meant that you would, but you would not complain when the company that you did not read the contract of screwed you over. Well that's sad. So I mean there is absolutely nothing a company could do to you that was not illegal that you would come complain about? Really?
BiteCode_dev|4 years ago
Because there is a TOS or CLUE coming with Android, iOS, Windows, MacOS, Firefox, Chrome, Edge...
I'm assuming you didn't even read the TOS/CLUE required for you to post this comment.
Don't shop online, at all.
And I'm assuming you do, and didn't spend hours reading the TOS of all the sites you shop from.
Don't send messages.
Are you self hosting your email server ? Have you read your email provider TOS ? Each chat service TOS ? I doubt it.
Don't what videos on youtube. Don't search on google search. Don't use GPS.
You do that right ? Or have you actually read TOS for each service ?
If you said yes to all of this, either you are lying, living in a cave, or you are Richard Stallman. In which case, nice to meet you.
jdkjs|4 years ago
It’s my right to sign contracts without reading them. It’s not my right to pretend I didn’t sign them because I didn’t read them.
manuelabeledo|4 years ago
Sometimes it's not about how long does it take to read it, but even how it is interpreted by one of the parties, or if it includes clauses that are unreasonable.
For example, contracts signed by seniors who didn't have the knowledge or mental faculties to understand what they were signing, may be voided.
tapoxi|4 years ago
jdkjs|4 years ago
croes|4 years ago