[threshold]

Ok, those are fair points. The US is not innocent for sure, but consider the context of the times when the technology was developed, and also that a hydrogen warhead is 1000x more destructive than the atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Take pause to think about that.

I'll add that I'm far more concerned with the remains of the Soviet empire than China for a number of reasons.

But it really doesn't matter which side was more decent or noble. Fact is we're in the fight now and their intent is crystal clear. They built those devices to put our people, children, homes and ideals under the ground. It's so so dangerous to give them a pass.

[hutzlibu]

"Fact is we're in the fight now and their intent is crystal clear. They built those devices to put our people, children, homes and ideals under the ground. It's so so dangerous to give them a pass."

Why is their intent so "crystal clear", when they build their bombs after the west build theirs first (and directed at them)?

Have you never considered, that maybe they felt the need to build them - so their homes are protected, too?

I think it is very dangerous, if all sides only see their own sides. This is how wars start.

[Aloha]

I think you're blind and empire.

I look at it simple, I can live under American Hegemony, Chinese Hegemony or Russian Hegemony.

China and Russia are oppressive places to live - arguably china more than Russia - by most metrics, Russia is considerably more free than China. That as an aside, China and Russia are considerable risks to the worlds economic and political stability.

I consider our invention and use of atomic weapons quite just, and not even a debating point.