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throwhauser | 4 years ago
If there's no way to 100% establish that all the money has been extracted, an attacker might keep going indefinitely to see if there's more.
throwhauser | 4 years ago
If there's no way to 100% establish that all the money has been extracted, an attacker might keep going indefinitely to see if there's more.
littlestymaar|4 years ago
That creates an interesting game theory situation though, where nobody has any incentive to disclose anything, since it wouldn't change the outcome anyway, which ends up negating the whole point of torture: the victim needs to believe that the tormentor will stop if they disclose the truth.
(Unfortunately, the real world isn't a game theory problem…).
dane-pgp|4 years ago
Anyway, you're right that the real world isn't a game theory problem, but I do think that if someone is faced with being tortured for information, they should at least attempt to ask the torturer "How do I know that you will stop when I give you the information?". Or, perhaps less incriminatingly, "I don't have that information, and it doesn't matter because you'll keep torturing me regardless".
You may not be able to convince the torturer to give up on the torture (much less convince them to let you go free), but you might at least be able to convince yourself that there is no point talking or trying to come up with a lie. Having said that, it's also instructive to look at the example of Marcus McDilda who was tortured by the Japanese for information about atomic bombs, about which he knew nothing.[2] His lies may have saved not just his own life, but millions more.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_%28file_system%29
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OFFSystem
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_McDilda
syrrim|4 years ago
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