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52 points| danieltait | 4 years ago |twentyletters.com

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[+] ryan-duve|4 years ago|reply
Thanks for sharing. Here's some feedback.

1. I found it distracting the instructions were an image instead of text. I sometimes drag my cursor along lines in bulleted lists and was surprised the image started moving.

2. Why can I drag the directions across the page? Is that a bug?

3. The instructions are very concise and clear.

4. Why is there a `*` after `values` in the fourth item?

5. Would you enable a "click to teleport letter to next position of 'active' word" so I don't have to drag the mouse across the screen so many times? Or some other way to get answers up faster?

6. It would be nice if I had an indicator that one of the words I got fits in the global solution. How do you feel about enabling an "easy mode" or something that allows instant feedback for this?

7. It is nice you have the top possible score in the header. Would it be more obvious if it was made to stand out somehow (maybe 43/380 points or something)?

8. The interface is super clean. Nice job!

[+] ffpip|4 years ago|reply
> instructions were an image instead of text

They are text. If you ctrl+A, your browser will highlight them. There just seems to be some weird js that moves the text when you drag it.

[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Great feedback thanks!

  1. Will fix this! It's because I'm using jQuery draggable for moving the letters.
  2. Same as above.
  3. Thanks!
  4. The score is letter values multiplied by word length (will make this more clear).
  5. Yes this would be a great improvement.
  6. Yes this would be good.
  7. Will play around with this design.
  8. Thanks!
[+] worble|4 years ago|reply
Looks fun, but drag and drop (at least on desktop) is just too finicky to play for any length without being frustrated. Any chance of just being able to type the letters and hit enter/up+down to change lines?
[+] Majestic121|4 years ago|reply
Agreed, first thing I tried was to type, it's annoying very fast to click and drag
[+] dmje|4 years ago|reply
Yes, or double click / single tap.

A clear button would be great too

[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Thanks! Yes will add this asap
[+] onychomys|4 years ago|reply
This is pretty great, there's a lot of potential here. I find myself wanting a "clear" button (maybe one per line?), as I try different things it's annoying to have to drag them around to different lines. And when I see the score for a set of words and realize I still have quite a ways to go, it'd be nice to just bring them all back down and start over again.
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Thanks! Yes thats a good idea will add something like that asap
[+] 4bpp|4 years ago|reply
I was dismayed to have two words rejected that I thought were by all accounts legitimate. What's the word list you are using? Since they got rejected, there is probably no issue with mentioning them here: "hoplite" and "caltrop".
[+] dsr_|4 years ago|reply
Those are both good (rejected words), as are pollock and bollock. The word list needs work.
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
For first version I'm just using http://aspell.net english dictionary, but I can easily switch to a custom word list. Will research best options.
[+] junon|4 years ago|reply
Drag and drop is an Anti-Feature here. Please just make it type entry.
[+] air7|4 years ago|reply
Very nice.

Perhaps your Twitter-share-path-to-virality could be an image of green boxes (a-la Wordle) with the lengths of the words in decreasing order?

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Perhaps also with the score of each word if that's not too much of a giveaway.

[+] sauwan|4 years ago|reply
Yep, definitely need a more visually compelling way to share results. I like this suggestion.
[+] modernpink|4 years ago|reply
RIP CHOCOLATE BALK BRED

Using all letters giving a score of 227/380

There should be some hints on how to increase my score? Is this based on the word rarity?

[+] random_coder|4 years ago|reply
Each letter is given a weight and it's multiplied by the length of the word it's part of to get its effective weight. Sum it up for all letters and you get the final score. Here, it seems like two 10 letter words can be formed using the given 20. Hint - blackboard is one such word.
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Thanks for playing! Right now the score is calculated by letter value multiplied by word length so longer words score more points. Open to feedback on this as wasn't sure best scoring.
[+] 0xdada|4 years ago|reply
I got 261 points.

Spoiler: QkFCRUwgUEFETE9DSyBSSEVUT1JJQw==

Edit: 272 / QkxPQgpQQUNLRUQKUkhFVE9SSUNBTA==

[+] WilTimSon|4 years ago|reply
Oh, that's a much harder one than Wordle, this is interesting. I was surprised when "calc" wasn't accepted, I've heard Americans use it so often. Is it not really considered a full word?
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Haha yes doesnt seem to be in dictionary
[+] gigglesupstairs|4 years ago|reply
This seems very similar to NYT Spelling Bee? Except the central letter constraint is missing and it lays out certain letters multiple times visually. Note that in Spelling bee too letters can be used multiple times. At the least author should call this an inspiration from spelling bee. Anyways, will give it a go.
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
In full honesty I've never seen or played spelling bee haha, but yes definitely some similarities after looking now! The inspiration came more from scrabble than anything else
[+] kreeWall|4 years ago|reply
I enjoyed this and agree with many of the comments here - typing would be far easier and more fun! It might also be fun to add a "hint" where it gives you one of the words in the top scoring solution - maybe just as is, or even jumbled up. Overall, great concept and I look forward to playing more often!
[+] jonnycomputer|4 years ago|reply
Not clear what score is based on. Letters have values, but you can only use letter once, so???
[+] sauwan|4 years ago|reply
Score = (sum letter values) * (word length)
[+] strangus|4 years ago|reply
I like it. I wish there was a visual cue showing me on which line the tile would fall.
[+] granto|4 years ago|reply
Fun game. Works well on iPhone 13, but doesn’t work on iPhone SE (screen doesn’t fit and there is no way to scroll). Another thought, would be great to see how score compares to others or the average, best score, fastest, etc).
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Oooh thanks will fix this asap. Yes good idea to add some stats
[+] onion2k|4 years ago|reply
I don't know what dictionary is being used here, but rabbiter and looper were both rejected despite being in the UK and US Scrabble Words lists. That's immensely annoying.
[+] wdwvt1|4 years ago|reply
Or coprolite - a killer with this set of letters.
[+] dmje|4 years ago|reply
I mean, maybe not immensely annoying in the general scheme of things... :-)
[+] julian55|4 years ago|reply
Also hackable and some other -able words were not accepted.
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
My new daily word puzzle idea! Would love some feedback.
[+] crispweed|4 years ago|reply
The text you get when you click share should indicate which puzzle you solved, in some way (e.g. like the number in "Wordle 247 3/6").

Having some kind of graphic in this sharing text would feel nicer, I think, as well, somehow. (Could be just sequences of green blocks for each word, basically just showing how long the words you made are.)

[+] modernpink|4 years ago|reply
How much do you hope to sell this to NYT for?
[+] iib|4 years ago|reply
For those looking for the solution, it is QkxBQ0tCT0FSRApIRUxJQ09QVEVS (inspired by the author who posted one of the words).
[+] Siecje|4 years ago|reply
How do I use that to get the solution?

EDIT: Okay it was Base64 encoded.

[+] jaggs|4 years ago|reply
Very nice. Got started within 2 minutes of landing on the page, which is always a good sign.
[+] scottmsul|4 years ago|reply
You should make a leaderboard where you can see everyone else's words and scores!
[+] danieltait|4 years ago|reply
Good idea! Will develop stats/leaderboards over next few days
[+] christrowe|4 years ago|reply
It's great but it's just its quite an incomplete game for its release.
[+] Siecje|4 years ago|reply
Should tap a row and then tap letters, and tap to remove, not drag tiles around.