[Shin--]

A collectivistic society expects everyone to do their part to reach a good standard of living for everyone. 8 hours/day, as was common, to rebuild destroyed countries and economy is less than countless people in capitalist nations have to work today. The biggest difference is, is that this amount of labour is necessary for their own survival, that there is no collective sense, without authorities trying to reward them in some ways to keep them happy, or even showing any appreciation for the work they do.

Socialists don't say that socialism would suddenly lead to less work for everyone, a revolution and rebuilding after a revolution is a lot of hard work, but the work is done for the collective good, not to make a few even richer. It shall have meaning and be valued by society. And yes, eventually - even Marx talked about it already - work that is not necessary and labour that can be automated will become more free time for everyone.

[yucky]

>a revolution is a lot of hard work, but the work is done for the collective good, not to make a few even richer.

Does this ever happen in reality though?

[krapp]

No. I think every revolution serves the interests of the elites.

Even the American Revolution was essentially a tax evasion scheme by the wealthy merchant class.