[Reichhardt]

Economic sanctions will do nothing for the Ukrainian men and women fighting for their homes on the ground. Western nations need to begin running air missions over Ukraine directly. With control of the air, the local Ukrainian troops can easily triumph on the ground.

[jimbob45]

Sanctions work and have worked against Russia[0]. Anyone telling you otherwise is wrong.

What's important here is to maintain the moral upper ground. China won't be able to withstand public opinion swaying to the side of the Ukrainians as more and more video evidence surfaces of massacres. If we offer real military support to the Ukrainians, China would use any video of our success as justification to begin helping the Russian side.

Protip: If you want to research the effects of sanctions, go to Google News search and set the time period to exclude articles from after 2020ish. You'll get higher-quality articles.

[0]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/can-sanctions-stop-putin/

[tetromino_]

The Brookings article you linked to directly contradicts your point. It argues (correctly) that sanctions will hurt Russia's people but are extremely unlikely to change Putin's policies, and in fact, will only entrench Putin's control over what remains of the Russian economy.

I suspect you might have stopped reading the article at the first paragraph - which presents a thesis that the rest of the article then proceeds to analyze and disprove.

[dragontamer]

World leaders are scared to give more weapons to Ukraine, let alone actually fight in that space.

Germany is having issues delivering the 5,000 promised helmets, let alone any arms deal to Ukrainians. Lets start with a more reasonable goal, like NATO countries standing together and actually arming the Ukrainians?

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Ukrainians need more missiles to keep up their defenses. Politically speaking, that's where the discussion lies for now. Its unreasonable to expect the various world powers to give more than that right now... and seems like a political battle to even ask for this much.

[stjohnswarts]

You want NATO (mostly US jets) shooting down Russian planes over Ukraine? Why not just come out and say you want WW3?

[tablespoon]

> You want NATO (mostly US jets) shooting down Russian planes over Ukraine? Why not just come out and say you want WW3?

Are you so sure it would escalate like that, or is it a bluff?

And if it's a bluff, should Putin be able to bluff his tanks all the way to Berlin?

[lamp987]

i hope this is a joke