I think it is safe to assume that most/all (large) modern countries have paramilitary forces that are used to carefully tip the scales toward outcomes that are in their best interest in situations like these.
I don't think this is likely: the upside is small (can American GIs shoot anti-tank missiles better than Ukranian GIs?) and the downside is extremely large (nothing polls worse than Americans getting shipped home in boxes, and nothing would make Russia happier than to have actual proof of direct interference.)
There's been some groups raising independent fighting forces in Syria and Chechnya, but I don't think they've gotten to Ukraine yet. Ukraine has been actively recruiting Westerners who have been willing to fight since 2014 as well.
>There's been some groups raising independent fighting forces in Syria and Chechnya, but I don't think they've gotten to Ukraine yet. Ukraine has been actively recruiting Westerners who have been willing to fight since 2014 as well.
I have seen this, roughly 20,000 strong. But they have been specfically instructed to only shoot at nazis. That general ukrainian troops aren't allies, but they are not allowed to kill them.
>I’ve been following this closely and I haven’t seen any mention of non-Ukrainian forces in the country. Seems like pure speculation?
Absolutely pure speculation.
We never know what the navy seals or the green berets or the french dragoons, etc etc are doing. Everyone has many divisions of specops. Seal team 6 were the ones who very illegally operated within pakistan to kill osama bin laden.
Now im not interested debating the legality here. Im just pointing out, they operate wherever the hell they please. I would bet any amount of money specops of all major countries are in ukraine right now. Not 100% of the allies of ukraine and certainly not 0%.
I'd also bet there are constant very high res spy sattelites mapping every step of every russian soldier. You can actively see the global hawks operating. You can actively see the awacs in the air.
NATO response force is active and at the border. Those dude are going to be damn near if not as well trained as specops.
Like, being realistic, Russia already lost the war and they dont realize it.
The thing that got me thinking about this. Spetsnaz blue berets airdropped into that international airport, they took it. Spetsnaz are legit and well trained... and they were routed within the day? I dont believe it. I do believe it when I consider specops from across the world came in and wrecked their face.
I doubt this really - I think it is much more likely that in the past few months specops from other countries were in Ukraine training the hell out of Ukrainian soldiers. I guess I would not be surprised if individual countries that bordered Russia / Ukraine had limited people in the area but the potential political fallout would be huge if the UK for example was caught operating in the country while publicly saying they are not.
Private for hire mercenary groups though who knows
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ukraineally|4 years ago
I have seen this, roughly 20,000 strong. But they have been specfically instructed to only shoot at nazis. That general ukrainian troops aren't allies, but they are not allowed to kill them.
ukraineally|4 years ago
Absolutely pure speculation.
We never know what the navy seals or the green berets or the french dragoons, etc etc are doing. Everyone has many divisions of specops. Seal team 6 were the ones who very illegally operated within pakistan to kill osama bin laden.
In fact, Pakistan became a belligerent(siding with russia) in the Ukraine conflict probably due to large part of the publicity of the killing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Und...
Now im not interested debating the legality here. Im just pointing out, they operate wherever the hell they please. I would bet any amount of money specops of all major countries are in ukraine right now. Not 100% of the allies of ukraine and certainly not 0%.
I'd also bet there are constant very high res spy sattelites mapping every step of every russian soldier. You can actively see the global hawks operating. You can actively see the awacs in the air.
NATO response force is active and at the border. Those dude are going to be damn near if not as well trained as specops.
Like, being realistic, Russia already lost the war and they dont realize it.
The thing that got me thinking about this. Spetsnaz blue berets airdropped into that international airport, they took it. Spetsnaz are legit and well trained... and they were routed within the day? I dont believe it. I do believe it when I consider specops from across the world came in and wrecked their face.
Melatonic|4 years ago
Private for hire mercenary groups though who knows
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ukraineally|4 years ago
>Also perhaps noteworthy is that the Proud Boys in Australia
To be extra clear, the 'everyone is nazis' stuff really falls apart when the supposed nazis are not possibly nazis. Ukraine's president is Jewish...
For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrique_Tarrio
That's the leader of the proud boys. He's very obviously not a nazi.
Feel free to disagree with their politics but there's absolutely not a shred of evidence this guy who isn't white is a nazi.
You did confirm something with me today. Australia's media has been infiltrated by Russian spies.
I must admit, I'm not really familiar with Australia's media besides this guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlIrI80og8c
So what media do you follow that makes you think everyone is a nazi?
yks|4 years ago
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