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lupinglade | 4 years ago

The Russian state media are reporting lie after lie - see some of the real footage from the war that you can easily find anywhere online and compare to what they are reporting. You don't need to be an intelligence expert to see that the Russian media is spreading outright lies and propaganda. Stopping this propaganda is the right thing to do.

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zaptheimpaler|4 years ago

If they are such obvious lies then people will figure it out on their own - why do we need to censor them?

tablespoon|4 years ago

>> The Russian state media are reporting lie after lie - see some of the real footage from the war that you can easily find anywhere online and compare to what they are reporting. You don't need to be an intelligence expert to see that the Russian media is spreading outright lies and propaganda. Stopping this propaganda is the right thing to do.

> If they are such obvious lies then people will figure it out on their own - why do we need to censor them?

Enough people will be fooled, which is why they spread the lies. They're not stupid.

You're also kind of twisting the GP's meaning. He's not saying the lies are obvious on their face, but they're discoverable by a layman from critically comparing sources. However a lot of layman (most?) don't compare sources.

native_samples|4 years ago

How do you know which is true? Are you just assuming Western sources are true and any contradiction is evidence of a lie?

This is reasonable to ask because Western sources have (also) been lying a lot, e.g. presenting photos taken last year as the Ukrainian president fighting on the front line today. So we have two lying groups and no obvious ways to figure out what's true. Occasionally you get lucky and e.g. reverse image search saves the day, but mostly, there's no way to detect lies.

tablespoon|4 years ago

> How do you know which is true? Are you just assuming Western sources are true and any contradiction is evidence of a lie?

RT and its friends have a pretty well documented history of deliberately and strategically spreading lies and disinformation (e.g. when MH17 was shot down, they sprung into action spreading all kinds of lies and conspiracy theories to obscure the Russian involvement). Western sources may get things wrong from time to time, but they're at least trying to get things right.