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saturdaysaint | 4 years ago

This line of argument doesn't hold up to the slightest scrutiny. First of all, it's quite pedantic and naive to assume that governments and medical bodies in the richest and most advanced countries haven't worked through similar issues of causality with innumerable other diseases. More to the point, the peaks in COVID deaths magically align with proportionately large spikes in all cause mortality not seen in prior years that have yet to be explained by anything else.

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mdoms|4 years ago

Here in New Zealand a gang member was shot to death and was recorded as a covid death because he tested positive posthumously. This is apparently in line with international practices. If you don't see the absurdity in that then I don't know what to say.

LAC-Tech|4 years ago

Covid helping to do the job our police and military can't.

WithinReason|4 years ago

> More to the point, the peaks in COVID deaths magically align with proportionately large spikes in all cause mortality not seen in prior years that have yet to be explained by anything else.

In the UK they are in fact inversely correlated for Omicron. See my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30558089

nojito|4 years ago

Very few states record COVID deaths properly.

How do you remove people who die in the hospital for other reasons but have a mandatory COVID swab done and are positive?

NoSorryCannot|4 years ago

The person you responded to mentioned all-cause mortality. Remove the base rate, then you're left with excess deaths. How do you explain excess deaths if they are not covid?

And that's not to say an explanation other than covid is impossible, but it would need to be compelling.