Russia didn't hide their military buildup, they just lied and gaslit the world via their various disinformation channels into believing that Putin would have to be insane to actually invade.
There are still people who believe that today. It all depends on what you want to believe. People believe that Russia was forced into this, people believe that Ukranians secretly long to be liberated and saved. People will believe the most crazy stuff.
Zelenskyy himself was telling people to calm down with the invasion rhetoric, indicating that there is no evidence of an imminent invasion, and that the rhetoric is counter productive.
Personally, I thought Putin would establish a stronghold in the Donbas and gradually improve position from there. This full on assault of the entire country is shocking and seems wildly aggressive and overly ambitious.
Yeah he puts these videos on Youtube designed to make him look bad on first blush, but then you think it over and what he responds to crappy questions makes perfect sense, so because it occurs to you the viewer "spontaneously" it makes these thoughts more convincing. But that's a double-bluff you see, in some cases quadruple-bluffs, I think I even saw one sextuple-bluff, even-numbered bluffs.
Yup. It's crazy how many of these are out in the wild. I mostly notice Chinese ones from my time there or ones highlighted by friends. But the Russian disinfo coming out in the lead up was insane.
I'm all for freedom of press but state sanctioned media is such a fucking blight.
The most vociferous against Russia today are the ones that predicted Putin is not a gambler and would not attack. These are not Putin's puppets. These are the people considered well respected International relations people.
To call everything and everyone Putin's propaganda and disinformation is simplistic. Hindsight is 2020, it always feels like we missed the obvious signs.
mrighele|4 years ago
And, judging by the faces on the videos that I saw, many members of his cabinet and top generals were thinking the same.
axiosgunnar|4 years ago
baybal2|4 years ago
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jmull|4 years ago
I hadn’t heard of that before.
jacquesm|4 years ago
AutumnCurtain|4 years ago
tejohnso|4 years ago
Personally, I thought Putin would establish a stronghold in the Donbas and gradually improve position from there. This full on assault of the entire country is shocking and seems wildly aggressive and overly ambitious.
FpUser|4 years ago
Eupolemos|4 years ago
It is very worrying to me that China tones down the invasion in their media (if that is indeed true, I don't follow Chinese media myself).
Better to let people know what war really is. Unless you want it.
Lio|4 years ago
This weekend China has refused to show Premiership Football because of protests at matches against the Russian invasion[1].
Right now the English FA and clubs are just ignoring that but it's a big market. How long will they ignore that revenue stream?
Already the way Disney, Netflix, Apple, NBA and Hollywood cozy up to the CCP is pretty worrying.
1. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/china-blocks-broadc...
daniel-cussen|4 years ago
askura|4 years ago
Yup. It's crazy how many of these are out in the wild. I mostly notice Chinese ones from my time there or ones highlighted by friends. But the Russian disinfo coming out in the lead up was insane.
I'm all for freedom of press but state sanctioned media is such a fucking blight.
sremani|4 years ago
To call everything and everyone Putin's propaganda and disinformation is simplistic. Hindsight is 2020, it always feels like we missed the obvious signs.
ipaddr|4 years ago