[chasedehan]

All this “smart” stuff kills me for basic appliances that no Wi-Fi should ever be needed for.

Example: I am in the process of building a custom home with the ability to purchase whatever we want - when looking at ovens I told the salesperson that I didn’t want anything that has to connect to the internet and the response was that I would need to pick out something lower end because everything “high end” has the connectivity now. Even dishwashers.

[zionic]

I went through something similar. I just made sure all the high end appliances I got didn’t need WiFi to work. Having the capability (but not connected) hasn’t limited anything at all so far.

[jasonwatkinspdx]

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