Inflation happened during the first tiniest fractions of a second post big bang. No telescope is going to make direct observations of the inflationary period so I'm not sure what you mean by this.
I'm referring to the earliest era of transparent space, when conventional matter supposedly coalesced. If we look back to that period and still see red-shifted mature galaxies then something is very wrong with the current models. I'm under the impression that we don't have good observations of the period 375k-400M years after inflation and that infant galaxy observations have not been confirmed.
The earliest moment of transparent space is the CMB. I know JWST can't detect Pop3 stars, but is there even expectations that it could detect proto galaxies with those stars? I thought it was still much later, like the early Pop2 generation.
> No telescope is going to make direct observations of the inflationary period so I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Isn’t this an engineering problem and what we are attempting to do with gravitational wave detectors?
I know at one time it was believed gravitational waves were detected that provided direct evidence for inflationary theory but then the data was determined to be dust from the Milky Way. I thought this was still one of the major ongoing efforts in gravitational wave detection, was this ruled out?
This isn't just an engineering problem. Photons couldn't move around for the first 380K years or so. Space was nearly uniform, hot, and dense. The CMB is literally the heat wave left over from the point where the heavy soup thinned out just enough to allow photons to fly away in all directions.
The gravitational waves from those events would have already warped space, and the ones just now reaching us would be from the edge of the observable universe, and so too weak for any instruments we could conceivably build in the next few decades. Not that we shouldn't try, mind you. There are new frontiers in quasimatter and time crystals that could yield far more accurate gravitational wave detectors.
Also fascinating would be to attempt to decipher the deformations left in the metric already. There are some theories that basically say gravity waves permanently "crumple" spacetime, and it might be possible to read signatures of such events if this is so.
Well, I guess measurements of the early universe (100-250 million years after the big bang) can test predictions made by models of the inflationary period.
Measurements of pretty much any time in the universe can test predictions made by models of the early universe. One of the main reasons we think there was inflation is from late time (near today) observations of matter density (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatness_problem).
willis936|4 years ago
metalliqaz|4 years ago
throwawaycities|4 years ago
Isn’t this an engineering problem and what we are attempting to do with gravitational wave detectors?
I know at one time it was believed gravitational waves were detected that provided direct evidence for inflationary theory but then the data was determined to be dust from the Milky Way. I thought this was still one of the major ongoing efforts in gravitational wave detection, was this ruled out?
slowmovintarget|4 years ago
The gravitational waves from those events would have already warped space, and the ones just now reaching us would be from the edge of the observable universe, and so too weak for any instruments we could conceivably build in the next few decades. Not that we shouldn't try, mind you. There are new frontiers in quasimatter and time crystals that could yield far more accurate gravitational wave detectors.
Also fascinating would be to attempt to decipher the deformations left in the metric already. There are some theories that basically say gravity waves permanently "crumple" spacetime, and it might be possible to read signatures of such events if this is so.
metalliqaz|4 years ago
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