[dadkins]

How can it simultaneously be the hottest job market in anyone's memory, and yet the process still looks like this? These don't look like companies struggling to hire; these look like companies being exceedingly picky and not suffering one bit for it.

[UncleOxidant]

It's where they're applying, I think: "Apple, Babylon, Cloudflare, Deliveroo, Monzo, Spotify, TrueLayer." Don't know anything about Babylon or TrueLayer but most of these are largish, established companies. I've found early-stage startups less picky recently - I got a job at a startup in November that only required 4 video interviews each between 30 minutes to an hour. No whiteboarding, mostly just discussing previous projects. Finally the last (4th) interview was with the CTO where he started by saying: "It's really hard to find people good people to hire right now" and basically said he wanted to hire me and asked if I had any questions.

[adamsmith143]

Have Startup salaries gone up recently to match the market? I had thought it's pretty understood that you are taking a significant paycut relative to established players to basically play the lottery with startup equity?

[cloverich]

I am applying to ~10 companies, mostly start-ups, and they all have the same process. They are mostly not pure algorithms but have varying degrees of difficulty and all use multiple rounds of on the spot coding. Perhaps ironically I found the one purely algorithmic question (standard graph traversal) to be the least stressful.

[paxys]

Because regardless of the hotness of the market 90% of candidates are still completely unqualified for the position they are applying to. Companies would rather keep the role unfilled than hire someone who can't code "hello, world!" (and no, that's not an exaggeration).

[m0llusk]

That may be a challenge, but if a candidate has years of experience in the software industry then their resume might vouch for some skills. If a developer has delivered features to common tools that many appreciate then how is it possible that they cannot accomplish basic coding tasks? The main problem here is that teams that are hiring often don't even bother to read resumes and so they end up with a process that is expensive, broken, and actually insulting to the most qualified candidates.

[sage76]

> can't code "hello, world!"

Is hello world now code for hard level leetcode problems?

[dan-robertson]

Looking at the list of companies they are maybe applying in the U.K. where the market is different.