[mtberatwork]

> If managing a server becomes just another bullet point in a developer job, this is exactly what we get.

Yup...the same management are the ones that laid off the DBAs, system admins, network engineers, etc because "the cloud" hand waves all this stuff away now.

[thefunnyman]

I work for a large cloud provider and it’s even worse than you imagine because this same thing has happened to us. I don’t work on cloud, but we use cloud internally for our other products and devs on those teams are expected to manage all of this themselves with little guidance. We have no dedicated ops or infra person on my team. Everyone is just considered a generic software engineer. This wasn’t always the case until the recent push for devs to own all parts of the stack.