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stadium | 4 years ago

> Does that mean they are racist too??

There's a lot more to diversity and civil rights than just race, although racism is very visible.

> Seems to me that preventing IQ tests from being used as a criteria for positions requiring heavy analytical work is discrimination against individuals who can do well on IQ tests.

Some people just aren't test takers. Anxiety, ADHD, neurodiversity in general for example. Or maybe they came from a place that didn't teach standardized tests, or is taking the test in a non-native language. Blind. Who knows. Someone could be a genius but suck at test taking.

Why should an IQ test be a job requirement anyways? Why not an EQ test? Does an IQ test discriminate against high EQ people? It's a straw man argument.

> It disgusts me to see anybody "apologize" for this. It's like as soon as they get accused of being "un-inclusive" they start "apologizing" before some imaginary mob bursts in and hurts their social media rankings. This is so spineless.

I wonder if there's a middle ground where someone else's success isn't seen as taking away another person's. That would make for less hostile rhetoric on both sides of your argument.

There can be a lot of social and family support/pressure to get good grades, attend good schools, and not everyone gets the right people surrounding them to create those types of opportunities. And checking all the right boxes still doesn't make someone entitled to a special set of job opportunities. At least not in the US. China, maybe so. Other countries maybe different too.

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Dharmat55|4 years ago

> Anxiety, ADHD, neurodiversity

> non-native language. Blind

If we're being brutally honest here, this makes the test a good filter if only for this reason. These are not advantageous traits. All else being equal, a sensible employer ought to prefer the candidate without these ... 'neurodivergences'.

If diversity is such a boon for business, I'm sure the company next door with less discriminating recruitment policies will be glad to take them on board...

boondaburrah|4 years ago

Those non-advantageous traits may have no bearing on the ability to do the job though, only the ability to take the test. This is precisely why it's illegal.

jokethrowaway|4 years ago

> Why should an IQ test be a job requirement anyways? Why not an EQ test? Does an IQ test discriminate against high EQ people? It's a straw man argument.

It's not the job of a faceless entity to decide on what criteria I should hire someone. If I value EQ I should very well be able to do a test for EQ.

IQ tests sound perfectly reasonable and don't discriminate anymore than any other mental gimmick is requested in interviews today.