[komuher]

3090 is on Samsung 8nm 2+years old node so it will always be worse and still apple gpu claims are always oversaturated and its good people are talking about it considering apple propaganda of FASTEST CONSUMER GPU.

Despite this m1 ultra gpu is a big step for all people intrested in apple market and DL/ML workloads

[microtonal]

3090 is on Samsung 8nm 2+years old node so it will always be worse

While the M1 Ultra is the latest CPU, it still uses A14/M1 cores from 2020. It's likely that Apple made a lot of progress on the microarchitecture since then, plus rumors are that M2 will switch to a 4nm node.

[komuher]

Samsung 8nm was almost 2 years old when rtx 3090 was coming to the market (english isnt my native language in my head it was clearer :D)

Apple is on TSMC 5nm here comment from 2years ago about 8nm samsung vs 7nm TSMC

"Hell, Samsung 8nm is really a 10nm process, it's just an extension of Samsung 10nm with a ~15-20% improvement in transistor density.

TSMC 7nm (EUV 4 layer) is nearly twice as dense as Samsung 8nm. non-EUV (first gen TSMC 7nm) is still far denser than Samsung 8nm."

[nottorp]

> considering apple propaganda of FASTEST CONSUMER GPU

Well as a mostly Apple user, I don't read Apple propaganda. Or nvidia propaganda for that matter.

The M1 Max mac studio's full system consumption on load seems to be ~50 W. I wonder how much performance nvidia can deliver with that. I think ... they simply don't have a product in that power budget?

I know most people only care about FASTEST CONSUMER GPU (yay, it doubles as a leaf blower and a space heater) but I still think nvidia's best product was the 1050Ti ... decent 1080 performance in 75 W.