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kistaro | 4 years ago

Oh no, indeed, how could someone possibly object to killing civilians in cold blood with the full military force of an arguably-developed nation, while themselves committing such horrible crimes as - gasp! - deleting files? patterns of bits have human rights too!

Get over yourself.

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jlkuester7|4 years ago

> patterns of bits have human rights too!

I think the main concern of the OP was with _human_ collateral damage that can result from the deleted bits. Having worked for years in EMRs, I can definitely say that sustained IT outages in modern hospital systems can and often do lead to increased deaths.

kistaro|4 years ago

Other things that lead to increased deaths: the Russian military intentionally bombing civilians.

I usually oppose “whataboutism” but I can’t bring myself to do it here. This is a war where the nation of Russia has decided to murder Ukrainians. Means to interfere with Russia’s blood-soaked campaign must be viewed not in isolation, but in the context of what they are attempting to stop.

To be clear, I am not making a general purpose “the end justifies the means” argument. I am making a narrow and specific “the circumstances justify extreme behavior with severe externalities” argument.