Be honest OP you were making this to actually procrastinate on whatever it is you had to be actually doing at that time, didn't you? :P nah I'm just kidding, this looks like a wonderful site and congrats on completion and launch!
As a professional procrastinator I have no respekt for people finishing things while procrastinating. I am writing a book about how to procrastinate properly but I will start tomorrow…
The good: I really appreciate that the free trial doesn't require a credit card/just freezes the features until an opt-in for a subscription.
The bad: i think there's a bit of a bootstrapping problem here...You want me to set up a system to make me do more stuff? I'll get started on that later ;)
The trick to counter the bad I've found is to do these setups when my brain is tired, and in "delusions of grandeur" mode - which is at 2-3AM. The Habit app on Android has really helped me stick to some tough good habits and give up some bad ones.
It's unreal how game features like quests can get us to play for hours to earn some gold (WoW dailies anyone?)
What if we use these hacks to do things that are good for us, like working out or reading a book?
That's why I created Habits Garden: To help you form habits while having fun.
How does it work?
1. Create your habits
2. Complete dailies to earn some gems
3. Buy flowers to grow a wonderful garden
4. Be consistent to unlock special/unique flowers
5. Visit your friends' gardens to see their progress (coming soon)
I hope it will work for you as well as it does for me and other users.
If you have any good or bad feedback, I have no ego, be straight-forward :)
Is there any good sources on why these things work?
Like I saw a condolences card that someone made for a colleague that lost his wordle streak. What's actually going on there in that person's brain, why do they view this as a loss to be mourned or a failure while happily ignoring other things that may be healthier options?
It takes too much scrolling to see an end result of all the habits. Put a preview of someone's sick 6-months-in-the-works garden close to the top, that's what I'd sign up for.
Loot boxes you can buy with gems offering limited time flowers would be a hit I think
One month ago, I spent hours testing dozens of apps for "gamified todo list". I could not find any that would perfectly suits my needs (Habitica is too gamified for example).
Your app looks very promising. Polished UI. Intuitive. Unlimited habits. Simple "task -> award" principle without added complexity layers.
Something I'm having trouble finding in the apps I've tried is the distinction between "habit" and "task". An habit is something I want to do multiple time in a week. While a task is a one-shot TODO that I would like to execute at some point when I'm not procrastinating. Once done, I don't need to repeat it, but I like to be rewarded.
Your application seems to be more habit oriented. Is the notion of a one-time task something you could eventually incorporate?
I have been in the same boat of trying to gamify my to-do list. So far I have been working with progress bars and goals to try and find a way to motivate me to get things done.
I realized that the hardest thing is getting the long term goals to feel like a simple activity for today, bringing the 3+ month goal into a simple “read a few pages today” type of habit.
I also created a simple spreadsheet app that focuses specifically on the progress you made today in relation to your goal. The progress you make today is a different color. Instead of estimating how long it will take to complete the goal with your average, I use the amount done today. So after every addition page read you can see the amount of days left to finish the book go down.
I also added a little bit of motivation text that says “if you read X more pages you will be done Y days faster.
If you use the “MIT”(Most Important Task) type of system , then you could make it a daily habit to complete your top 2-3 MITs for the day.
Breaking one time tasks into small chunks that could become a habit to start on at specific times might be worth looking into. Similar to writers who write for an hour every day even when not motivated.
Really nice! I've been thinking of habit gamification like this for a long time but never got too far as.. well, procrastination. Hopefully I can stick with using this instead.
As you don't have mobile apps yet I have one far out suggestion that is easy to implement and in my tests worked much better than I ever though it would. It's possible to create two kind of menus in Telegram chats[0]. For my start of a habit tracker my bot sent me possible actions (as in habits) to our chat, and I could just click what I'd done and that's it. Works on both on mobile and desktop and just takes a second. It's possible to keep a permanent menu below the typing area and attach an inline menu on a message, so I kept my habits in permanent menu and possible follow-up actions (leave a note, cancel the action, stop taking time) in the reply to a confirmation of selected action. I know it's strange suggestion but I've been thinking and implementing different ways to make use of that menu system as I was blown away how it worked and with just a few lines of code.
$9 (or $6 if paid annually) per month is very expensive, especially for an app that should be a one time payment. I'll stick with my green square grid inside OneNote.
Amazon had a thing where they would send you a physical button to re-order subscription items. I wonder if you could do the same for this. I don't want to pull out my phone to tick a box. I want it to get ticked automatically when I do something.
The reason I don't get into these is that I want an API so that it can hook into other things. But I see why an app is easier to start with.
But maybe a programmer focused habit tracker with an API is a niche. Some kind of payment system where it takes a tiny payment every time you actually achieve a step towards your goal seems like it would align incentives too.
Also, if you can track sleep/exercise/happiness I'd wonder if you could demonstrate what makes an individual, or people in general happier. Big task I know, but I think Google Fit and that ring mounted mood tracker is aiming for something like this.
I don't believe this would work to fight procrastination for more than a few days. Just like all gamification systems, they are very limited and won't change your inner motivation.
In my experience as someone with adhd who is a perpetual procrastinator, gamification apps and any new shiny system to get me working last 1 to 3 months which, while not great, is better than nothing..
I really wish someone would make a generic open source Duolingo clone that works for any content. Basically something to replace Anki, which never really worked for me.
I think its fair to ask for payment, but I think it should be waaaay cheaper. I know a few maintainers of really good, productive open source software, and some of them earn about 4000-5000€ per month from it. I feel like 1€ per month would be a price that I'm both willing to pay and feels fair towards the developer. If they can get a few thousand users they could make this their only job, and it doesn't feel like this is a site that would require multiple employees.
Procrastination stems from a wide spectrum of underlying causes though, from serious depression to temporary boredom. I've experienced both extremes and one is much easier to manage than the other.
Changing your job may, sometimes, be the answer and, then again, it might not be?
I find it kind of funny these sorts of things give you points, to then waste your time planting or creating things. I'm curious if people who actually, consistently get all of their stuff done use these sort of things.
What if procastrination is recursive, you never exit it, and when you get back to work that's procastrinating away from your previous task. Your own company should ask you to work on project A instead of project B, so what you call "work" is a higher level of procastrination, that goes up to the whole objectives vs actual tasks of humankind. Procastrinate about it!
This seems nice - it blends the features of Habitica and Forest that I find useful, and it's always great to see more innovation in the anti-procrastination space.
Habitica has gotten so busy/complicated for my tastes. When it was HabitRPG it was a little leaner in a way that my ADHD really needed. Definitely going to try this one out and see if it’s better suited.
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The good: I really appreciate that the free trial doesn't require a credit card/just freezes the features until an opt-in for a subscription.
The bad: i think there's a bit of a bootstrapping problem here...You want me to set up a system to make me do more stuff? I'll get started on that later ;)
[+] [-] hackernewds|4 years ago|reply
The trick to counter the bad I've found is to do these setups when my brain is tired, and in "delusions of grandeur" mode - which is at 2-3AM. The Habit app on Android has really helped me stick to some tough good habits and give up some bad ones.
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It's unreal how game features like quests can get us to play for hours to earn some gold (WoW dailies anyone?)
What if we use these hacks to do things that are good for us, like working out or reading a book?
That's why I created Habits Garden: To help you form habits while having fun.
How does it work?
1. Create your habits 2. Complete dailies to earn some gems 3. Buy flowers to grow a wonderful garden 4. Be consistent to unlock special/unique flowers 5. Visit your friends' gardens to see their progress (coming soon)
I hope it will work for you as well as it does for me and other users.
If you have any good or bad feedback, I have no ego, be straight-forward :)
[+] [-] ZeroGravitas|4 years ago|reply
Like I saw a condolences card that someone made for a colleague that lost his wordle streak. What's actually going on there in that person's brain, why do they view this as a loss to be mourned or a failure while happily ignoring other things that may be healthier options?
[+] [-] _bfhp|4 years ago|reply
Loot boxes you can buy with gems offering limited time flowers would be a hit I think
[+] [-] Delgan|4 years ago|reply
Your app looks very promising. Polished UI. Intuitive. Unlimited habits. Simple "task -> award" principle without added complexity layers.
Something I'm having trouble finding in the apps I've tried is the distinction between "habit" and "task". An habit is something I want to do multiple time in a week. While a task is a one-shot TODO that I would like to execute at some point when I'm not procrastinating. Once done, I don't need to repeat it, but I like to be rewarded.
Your application seems to be more habit oriented. Is the notion of a one-time task something you could eventually incorporate?
[+] [-] LegoZombieKing|4 years ago|reply
I realized that the hardest thing is getting the long term goals to feel like a simple activity for today, bringing the 3+ month goal into a simple “read a few pages today” type of habit.
I also created a simple spreadsheet app that focuses specifically on the progress you made today in relation to your goal. The progress you make today is a different color. Instead of estimating how long it will take to complete the goal with your average, I use the amount done today. So after every addition page read you can see the amount of days left to finish the book go down.
I also added a little bit of motivation text that says “if you read X more pages you will be done Y days faster.
If you use the “MIT”(Most Important Task) type of system , then you could make it a daily habit to complete your top 2-3 MITs for the day.
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As you don't have mobile apps yet I have one far out suggestion that is easy to implement and in my tests worked much better than I ever though it would. It's possible to create two kind of menus in Telegram chats[0]. For my start of a habit tracker my bot sent me possible actions (as in habits) to our chat, and I could just click what I'd done and that's it. Works on both on mobile and desktop and just takes a second. It's possible to keep a permanent menu below the typing area and attach an inline menu on a message, so I kept my habits in permanent menu and possible follow-up actions (leave a note, cancel the action, stop taking time) in the reply to a confirmation of selected action. I know it's strange suggestion but I've been thinking and implementing different ways to make use of that menu system as I was blown away how it worked and with just a few lines of code.
[0] https://hetzger.ohmycron.xyz/web/telegram_menu.png
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The reason I don't get into these is that I want an API so that it can hook into other things. But I see why an app is easier to start with.
But maybe a programmer focused habit tracker with an API is a niche. Some kind of payment system where it takes a tiny payment every time you actually achieve a step towards your goal seems like it would align incentives too.
Also, if you can track sleep/exercise/happiness I'd wonder if you could demonstrate what makes an individual, or people in general happier. Big task I know, but I think Google Fit and that ring mounted mood tracker is aiming for something like this.
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The something can be logging the fact, displaying it, ... Your imagination is the limit.
A great product to stay with us Home Assistant (https://www.home-assistant.io/)
[+] [-] marclou|4 years ago|reply
Habits Garden could see an API integration with Zapier, who knows?
Just curious, what would be the shape of that physical button you'd tap when you're done with a habit?
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Changing your job may, sometimes, be the answer and, then again, it might not be?
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*For Desktop https://habitica.com http://dontbreakthechain.com http://tdp.me * For Mobile https://www.lifehack.org/668261/best-habit-tracking-apps
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Do I get your point correctly?