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istorical | 3 years ago

You might be missing the point of those who disagree with your take, which is to call those who want to do different things on /r/Place than you 'trolls' or 'griefers' is itself just you projecting your own value judgment onto them, or acting as if you are the judge of what is right and wrong.

From the perspective of someone who likes /r/theblackvoid, the pixel artists coloring over the void are just trolls and griefers.

So the parent would refer to anyone 'complaining' about other users as unnecessarily angry. Whether it's a flag person mad that some other flag or art or void or whatever is drawing over their flag, or whether it's a void person mad at the flag person, or whether its a pixel artist mad at the flag person, it's all just people projecting their own preference as if its some moral imperative.

Who are you to say that streamers shouldn't use their followers to leave a mark? Or that chaos and randomly placing pixels isn't a valid goal? You may personally find it really stupid and annoying. I personally find baseball really stupid and annoying. But I wouldn't refer to people who enjoy baseball as trolls.

Dr. Seuss' butter battle is the perfect illustration. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Butter_Battle_Book

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Tijdreiziger|3 years ago

I do think the failure of Reddit to deploy even the most basic of anti-bot measures made the endeavour less authentic. If it had been all humans, sure; duke it out and may the stronger community win. As it stands, though, the communities with the largest number of bots occupied the largest amount of space (hence the massive German, Belgian and Dutch flags).

Of course, this might have been intentional; there's a theory that this was Reddit's attempt to pump up user numbers for their IPO.

ASalazarMX|3 years ago

r/Place is inherently organized chaos, so anyone can leave their mark if they are able to. Unfortunately there's a sizable subset of people that don't want to leave a mark, and only want to vandalize other's marks, participating solely to draw funny eyes, broken teeth, penises, or simply erase whole sections.

I'd go as far as to qualify people who practiced r/TheBlackVoid in the canvas as antisocial, since filling a single-color void requires very little cooperation between themselves.

treesknees|3 years ago

The problem is it isn't your mark, maybe you feel differently because before you clicked the pixel it was white/blank. Or your group decided it would be yours. There is no ownership. There is no rule requiring cooperation or organization or socializing.

I'm not saying someone shouldn't be disappointed their art was overwritten. But again this gets back to my comment about the whole thing being divisive. You've demonstrated my entire point by saying /r/TheBlackVoid as using /r/place incorrectly.