[zkochan]

In the USA there are different people. Good and bad. There are states that are very conservative and there is California. There are some basic values that everyone agrees upon. I think nobody can claim that everyone is bad or good in the US. Same goes for any other democratic society. Same goes for Ukraine. There are a lot of people that I don't like in Ukraine.

In Russia there are some good people but they are in extreme minority. Extreme. Even the liberals in Russia are supporting the annexation of Crimea. Maybe the dictatorship is the reason, maybe the propaganda. I don't know and I don't care. This is how it is and I do what I can to exclude them from my life.

[epolanski]

There's different people in Russia too. No one is blocking US citizens because they dropped bombs killing 300 people shopping in markets or 200k civilians in Iraq or for the many abuses like Abu Grahib.

Actually america has been by far the biggest aggressor on the planrt in tge last decades, and it killed the most civilians outside Africa.

That's my problem with this massive anti russian hysteria in software.

You only appear careless, racist and naive. It's better to avoid politics in software and business, because if you don't you have to basically ban anyone.

[zkochan]

You have the audacity to call it anti Russian hysteria, when I should hide from air raid attacks sometimes several times a day?

Please don't use pnpm. Use Yarn or npm, those are better package managers for you.

[ttybird2]

"Even the liberals in Russia are supporting the annexation of Crimea"

- Supporting an annexation that has already happened is not the same as supporting a war.

- That being said, even the liberals in the US supported the various invasions and occupations. Don't forget that Libya happened under Obama.

- Even the liberals in Turkey are supporting the annexation of northern Cyprus, even the liberals in China support the annexation of Tibet, etc. It is not something unique to Russia.

"In Russia there are some good people but they are in extreme minority"

Bush's approval rating was the highest when he declared the invasion of Afghanistan (90%) and when he declared the invasion of Iraq (70%).

In addition to that this is typical racist rhetoric, I have heard exactly the same thing about Mexicans, Blacks, Albanians, Jews, Roma, etc.

[zkochan]

Racist rhetoric? Don't be ridiculous. There is no Russian race. I don't block Russians if they leave Russia. I have many Russian friends in Ukraine. Only Russians that live in Russia are blocked. Russians that pay tax to a government that is waging war against my country.

[jrochkind1]

As someone who lives in the USA and is a USA citizen, I'm frequently surprised by how much people don't hold US voters responsible for the actions of the government.

The US has and continues to do some pretty awful things around the world. Turning some parts of Pakistan into hellscapes where an invisible drone could kill you from the sky at any time and regularly does kill women and children with no warning, would be one example.

The vast majority of citizens in the US either pay no attention to this at all, or think it's a a good thing. There is a minority who think it's awful. (I suspect these proportions are pretty similar in Russia).

Since the US is theoretically a democracy, we citizens could, one would think, easily stop these things by voting for different people, you'd think people would hold us more accountable and be really mad at us. But somehow they don't, they're like, eh, most people in the US are good people I don't blame them for their government!

And to be fair, I wish I knew how to get my government to do something different -- or how to get more people in the country to pay attention to the really catastrophically criminal things my goverment does, I don't feel like I have much control over it either. (Although surely more than Russians do, in the really not a democracy of Russia?) I do what I can, I am politically involved where I can find the energy to be. It doesn't feel like enough. I'm not sure I or my country-mates deserve the dispensation to not be held responsible.

I think most governments do awful -- really horrendous, murderous -- things. I think tmost people are fundamentally good people, but many citizens of powerful countries doing bad things have these days been hoodwinked to ignore them or support them.

I wish I knew what to do about it. One thing I am personally sure of is that it starts from not judging people by their ethnicity or nationality -- that kind of thinking is what helps governments convince their residents that the violent things they are doing to someone else are ok. That's the problem not the solution.

But I'm not opposed to boycotting as a tactic. I do support BDS against Israel. The BDS organizers have been very careful (and learning from experience) at trying to figure out how to do it in a way that is ethical and maximizes effectiveness. (I think the BDS campaign has been effective, relative to anything else done to try to support Palestinians, although not nearly as effective as one would like, which goes without saying as Israel continues it's decades-long occupation). But reading what they have to say on the topic of boycotts against invaders, Israel, and Russia, is in my opinion worthwhile: https://bdsmovement.net/Hypocrisy

[zkochan]

> it starts from not judging people by their ethnicity or nationality

Russians that leave Russia are not blocked.

I am Hungarian by ethnicity. I will be probably also judged for the terrible policy of Orban. I feel deep shame for it. So I understand (a little) in what situation those "good" Russians are. And I know that those Russians support my decision and understand it.

[maxgraey]

> Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, all within the very recent history, plus countless more US-backed color revolutions - including the one in your very own country, which realistically is the very reason for the current state of affairs in there.

Oh God! You and your conspiracy theories are annoying. If the U.S. is so powerful, why hasn't it organized a color revolution in Russia or at least in Serbia, maybe in pro-Russian Hungary? I was at both revolutions in Ukraine and I know why they arose, they were supported by the Ukrainian people, self-organized. And it's been like that all through our history. You don't know shit about the political situation in Ukraine and its history, but you think you have it all figured out. I'm sure you don't even know your own history. So don't talk bullshit!

[zkochan]

> US-backed color revolutions - including the one in your very own country,

I see

I hope you won't use pnpm and we won't speak again.

[tyrrrzhn]

> Trump, the only president in recent history who did not start any wars

All of this "Trump is the ambassador of peace" rhetoric may almost convince you to forget that 90% of his electorate are gun-crazed maniacs.