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criticaltinker | 3 years ago
Day-muhn?
My colleagues all seem to say it differently, and I’ve always been curious which one of us sounds the most foolish.
criticaltinker | 3 years ago
Day-muhn?
My colleagues all seem to say it differently, and I’ve always been curious which one of us sounds the most foolish.
wrycoder|3 years ago
https://www.dourish.com/goodies/jargon.html
bityard|3 years ago
Exhibit B: In Old English, "æ" was a vowel that did not survive to modern English. There is no direct equivalent sound or letter for it today. Other words that contiained æ have generally taken the long E pronunciation instead, e.g. encylopaedia -> encyclopedia and aether -> ether.
So people can say what they want but in my opinion, the "dee-mon" pronunciation is the most correct. :)
hunter2_|3 years ago
> By the late 16th century, the general supernatural meaning was being distinguished with the spelling daemon, while the evil meaning remained with demon.
Given that both spellings were used simultaneously back then for the goal of differentiation that transcends mere archaic-vs-modern, I have to wonder if there was verbal differentiation accompanying it as well. I suppose this depends on a more precise estimate of æ's deprecation through the transition from Old to Middle to Early Modern to Modern English (specifically, whether its original /æ/ [0] sound persisted into Early Modern or was already /ee/ by then).
[0] Which, confusingly, has several possibilities [1]. Since we're talking about the 16th century though, we might go with the sound it also represents in IPA, as in ash, fan, happy, last, etc. although I can't say I've ever heard anyone utter /dam ən/...
[1] https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/70927/how-is-%C3...
teddyh|3 years ago
rpdillon|3 years ago
the__alchemist|3 years ago
staunch|3 years ago
But, in accord with the robustness principle, I'm happy to accept any pronunciation.
mindcrime|3 years ago
Same. Even though it's probably technically incorrect in some pedantic sense, this pronunciation just makes more sense to me.
assbuttbuttass|3 years ago
I've heard both in my personal life from different people
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computing)
brigandish|3 years ago
Whoever it was that decided “simplified” spellings were an improvement didn’t take into account how difficult they’d make pronunciation. I often hear highly educated Americans coming up with very strange ways to pronounce words, well beyond the normal realms of accent and variation, that are clearly the product of this. English spelling is bad enough but cutting out the hints to a word’s origin makes things worse, not better.
lnx01|3 years ago
djbusby|3 years ago
Or De-Men when feeling less nerdy.
_moof|3 years ago
In seriousness it's pronounced DEE-mon, but you'll never get consensus on this, so best just to say it the way you want to say it and leave it alone when someone else says it differently.
raddan|3 years ago
gmfawcett|3 years ago
SOO-dough (like pseudo)
> and 'sysctl'.
see-ISSSSS-cuttle (obviously!!)
mindcrime|3 years ago
sysctl: "sys control"
Cerium|3 years ago
melissalobos|3 years ago
Is that a typo? If not then I see how those would be pronounced the same, but daemon in American English would usually be pronounced "Day-mon". This also helps to distinguish between the long running process and an evil entity, which is good when talking to less technically minded folks.
cortesoft|3 years ago
unknown|3 years ago
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