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Nerd Dating: Y Combinator/WePay's Bill Clerico & Jenny McCarthy

39 points| eknopf | 14 years ago |bravotv.com | reply

Episode is next week...kind of awesome!

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[+] DevX101|14 years ago|reply
I've watched this show a few times. I'd highly caution against anyone going on the show if your objective is to actually find a match (as opposed to being on TV for the fun of it).

Patti (the host) will consistently throw the millionaires under the bus and humiliate them at any opportunity so that she can boost her ego. Her main objective isn't to make matches. It's to make good tv, and by extension generate drama. (Bravo's tagline is: 'We love drama')

[+] hajrice|14 years ago|reply
A lot of the stuff she does is basically shit-testing, and framing. Truth is 90% of the guys bight that stuff, and then you're out. "Women test men for all sorts of reasons, and it’s mostly an unconscious process. Attractive women have a lot of options, and prefer men who are STRONG OF CHARACTER. If you were an attractive woman being chased by hundreds of guys, how would you go about eliminating the losers? You’d TEST them, in subtle ways that test for strength and personality. If you did this on a regular enough basis, this behavior would become unconscious and automatic. Women will ALWAYS test you! Deal with it, learn how to handle it, and move on." [1]

Example I saw in the video.

Patti: "Are you nervous?" ...

Patti: "Do you think she's gorgeous?"

Bill: "She looks gorgeous"

By answering those questions, what Bill did is he bit into the frame and accepted her to control the situation. Notice how Patti leaded the conversation, and Bill played along.

tldr; Patti's not being a bitch, she pretty much doing what every attractive women does to a guy -- only she's doing it with no intention of dating them, rather to quickly dissect the guy

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[1] http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/fswiki.cgi?Shit_Tests

[+] jmtame|14 years ago|reply
I feel I should chime in since I know BC. I've been dating a girl now for 2 years because of a party he invited me to, and have to admit he handled this way better than I could have (and he has way more game than I do). I was a big wimp when it came down to it: I carried a ring on one of my fingers because I knew if I intentionally "lost" it from a girl I was talking to who I really liked, I had an excuse to go on a first date with her. At some point, this girl (now my girlfriend) at this party gave me her phone, and what else would I do with it besides call myself so that I was guaranteed to get her number? I'm really surprised she talked to me after that. I did get the first date though.

I think the points they made were valid; a lot of women seem to love gossip and things that I don't find interesting, but apparently that's a great way to start/carry a conversation with the type of woman who goes to a bar.

Most women I have met at bars were not interesting to me though. Nearly every girl I've dated has had something nerdy about her and I've met them through my own social circles; my last girlfriend was really into graphic design and the one I'm dating now studied biomedical engineering. Birds of a feather flock together?

[+] il|14 years ago|reply
Fortunately most women aren't like this. It's still disappointing that a popular show can be so viciously anti-intellectual.

In my experience, women are interested in hearing about the guy's passions, not less so if that passion is building a transformative startup.

[+] markbao|14 years ago|reply
Not only is it dangerously anti-intellectual, it also has some terrible flirting advice.

Telling her that she looks gorgeous? Really?

[+] Shenglong|14 years ago|reply
In my experience, women are interested in hearing about the guy's passions, not less so if that passion is building a transformative startup.

I don't think it's fair to make that assumption. Passions are awesome, but they'll lose interest if you start describing the intricate details. That's not only true about women, but most people in general. The trick is in how you describe, and not what you're describing.

One remarkable girl had me asking questions for half an hour about shoes, for example. I hate shoes.

[+] rdl|14 years ago|reply
I think I'd rather not be successful at picking up someone who doesn't care about my passions. They don't necessarily have to have the same interests, but if they're completely uninterested and uninterested in you, it's probably not going to go well.

(fortunately my girlfriend has gone from a being a biotech tech worker at a big pharma company to constantly asking about how to start a startup...)

[+] j4pe|14 years ago|reply
"CEO, Internet Payment Company" -

This guy dropped 600 pounds of ice outside PayPal's dev conference. He really can't get some producer to use his company's name on television? Although after watching the clip, I think I can understand why Bill wouldn't want WePay's name associated with this piece of fine television.

[+] KirinDave|14 years ago|reply
Jenny McCarthy is the antithesis of nerd culture. Why is she associated with us?
[+] fleitz|14 years ago|reply
I believe the title of the show is "Millionaire matchmaker", the show seems to be propagating the stereotype that men should be wealthy and women pretty. Thus if you're looking for up and coming millionaires the tech industry might not be a bad place to look, especially if you're looking for men who have made their millions before 40.
[+] fybren|14 years ago|reply
Anyone care to mirror it for us non-US folk?
[+] kennyma|14 years ago|reply
Nerd represent! The clip was pretty funny. Does anyone know if we will be able to watch the full episode online?
[+] mceachen|14 years ago|reply
Well played, Bill, well played.
[+] edibrac|14 years ago|reply
Bill Clerico came off as an Always Frustrated Chump. He needs to shake that off if he wants to be a ladies man. I suggest he start off with a few cover-to-cover readings of The Game.

They already got him started with some advice:

"if you want a 10 you got to be a 10 mentally and physically"

[+] hajrice|14 years ago|reply
I think you mean average frustrated chump