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kyriefh | 3 years ago

this is a good example of the importance of comms and user education. robinhood didn't lock trading - or at the very least, they were far from the only brokerage to do so and had very little choice in the matter. however, they were the front end that uninformed users experienced it through and thus took a huge PR hit

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autosharp|3 years ago

At first I assumed it was because of liquidity problems and not because they wanted to screw customers. But in the hearings later he refused to answer a bunch of easy questions. E.g. the following meme is literally what he said: https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/lngem6/do_y...

Q: "Do you realize that you literally manipulated the market. Yes or No?"

Vlad: "Thank you for the great question. When I was a boy in Bulgaria [ladida]"

If he had been honest in his dealings then he wouldn't have had to evade every question posed to him.

blahblah123456|3 years ago

Nah, not true. In a legal proceeding, always say the minimum. It's never to your benefit to talk to law enforcement (or congress in this case).

tyrfing|3 years ago

Can you link to the transcript or recording of this question and response? I am unable to find it.

avgDev|3 years ago

Robinhood thrived initially because they targeted uneducated investors. I downloaded the app, and the confetti explosion after stock purchase really turned me off. They wanted to make it fun. They wanted to target the dopamine receptors targeted by gambling.

All people who I interact with who are investing with robinhood have very little knowledge of the financial system. I hate making a generalization, but after the whole scandal it seems that robinhood investors were/are in fact not very knowledgeable about how trading works.

Miner49er|3 years ago

Yeah, but how are those uneducated investors supposed to learn? Robinhood lowered the barrier to entry to actually allow the normal person to invest/trade. Without it, I would know far less about the financial system then I do now. For me, Robinhood really did live up what it aims to do (democratize finance for all).

Palmik|3 years ago

They switched to reduce-only mode for GME, effectively going against the retail tide. The fact that other brokers did it is not an excuse. They should have known their user base better.

And it's not like they did not have other options -- they could have posted more collateral, and given that they raised billions soon after, it was within the real of possibility for them.

leereeves|3 years ago

> they could have posted more collateral, and given that they raised billions soon after, it was within the real [realm?] of possibility for them

Money they raised later couldn't have been used as collateral until they actually raised it, even if the investors would still invest under those conditions.

namdnay|3 years ago

I don’t get your second paragraph. They had to raise collateral right now. Once they raised the billions they could and did

gruez|3 years ago

>They should have known their user base better.

Hindsight is 20/20. Prior to that event happening, was there credible evidence that an S&P 500 company was going to get pumped 10x in price by a bunch of investors coordinating on social media?

codyb|3 years ago

I'm not sure "understanding your user base better" makes billions of dollars appear in your bank accounts instantly, but I'm not a market maker so who knows

daniel-cussen|3 years ago

> robinhood didn't lock trading - or at the very least, they were far from the only brokerage to do so and had very little choice in the matter.

So why did you start out saying they didn't lock trading...to then say they did lock trading? Do some people will only read the first fifteen words of your post? Like are you aiming to fill the air with positive-sounding sounds that make Robinhood sound good? You think we don't think?

Sometimes contradiction is good and helps with nuance and is meaningful. Here it's just gross, like I don't even have to quote two separate parts of what you said. But since I am entitled to quoting you twice to argue with you, but need no other piece of evidence, I'll just quote that same passage again.

> robinhood didn't lock trading - or at the very least, they were far from the only brokerage to do so and had very little choice in the matter.

colinmhayes|3 years ago

I don't think it's fair to say robinhood locked trading here. The brokers increased the amount of collateral needed to buy GME and robinhood didn't have the money. They were unable to buy more GME until their loan came through