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OminousWeapons | 3 years ago

> Places that allow the rich to prevent themselves from being taxed by their home countries do not deserve existence.

You are falsely assuming that every country's tax policy is reasonable or fair. Look at the United States policy on foreign assets which effectively amounts to double taxation for no other reason than "we don't like rich people" / "we don't like our citizens not living here".

> We need to get this money back under our control - if only to prevent social unrest from the 2/3rd of the US which have less than 1000$ in liquid savings.

It's not your money to begin with, it belongs to the people who rightfully earned it, not the government, nor the poor. Peoples' assets don't exist to serve as piggy banks for social programs and redistribution.

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mschuster91|3 years ago

> It's not your money to begin with, it belongs to the people who rightfully earned it, not the government, nor the poor. Peoples' assets don't exist to serve as piggy banks for social programs and redistribution.

It's up to debate if companies like Microsoft, Apple, AirBnB, Facebook or Uber "rightfully" earned their money - or if they did so by blatantly ignoring or skirting the laws for a long time.

Note that all companies I mentioned have a history of getting fined for violating labor, anti-trust or data protection laws.

brnt|3 years ago

> You are falsely assuming that every country's tax policy is reasonable or fair.

For that we have democracy. If you don't like the decisions taken by your countrymen, you should not get to extricate yourself so easily. A people has the right to tax its capital if it so pleases, and unless you can substantiate this being not right or unfair with, say, an equivalent to the human rights declaration, go ahead. But we both know this is not typically what tax havens are about; they are about not paying taxes. Besides, what's fair about being able to avoid taxes, where most people can't? Why do the rich get to pass the bill to others but the poor don't? Lotta holes in that line of reasoning.

> It's not your money to begin with, it belongs to the people who rightfully earned it, not the government, nor the poor.

Capital is not and should not magically be excluded from democratic control; and in fact fiat currencies, i.e. all of them, are precisely not your property. They are tokens distributed by a government within a context; the state and all its inhabitants. Speaking about fairness: merely having gathered many of these tokens does not mean you did so fairly or that you deserve them. It just means that you did.

ttoinou|3 years ago

   For that we have democracy. If you don't like the decisions taken by your countrymen, you should not get to extricate yourself so easily
Aaand the setup we're talking (and criticizing) about are completely legal, so following your line of thought they are the product of democracy

belter|3 years ago

If you start a new religion or marry into a royal family, you will not need to pay taxes anymore. It's a business tax optimization like any other.