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bazzert | 3 years ago

> The United States is more of a petro-state than most people realize

or energy independent, depending on how you want to look at it.

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photochemsyn|3 years ago

This is one people get a bit confused about:

1) In 2021, the United States imported about 8.47 million barrels per day (b/d) of petroleum from 73 countries. (EIA)

2) In 2021, the United States exported about 8.63 million b/d of petroleum to 176 countries and 4 U.S. territories.

The reasons you can't just say, halt exports and halt imports and be 'energy independent' are varied: there's regional demand (oil produced in the Dakotas can't easily get to Los Angeles, etc.) and there's the fact that refineries are built to distill specific grades of crude, you can't just mix-and-match.

Nevertheless, the fact that Obama & Biden, with Republican support, lifted the 1970s era ban on crude oil exports from the USA in 2015 is certainly a major factor in the gas price inflation, a fact neither party nor industry likes to see discussed in the corporate media.

Real 'energy independence' would come from using sunlight and wind, which cannot be embargoed or manipulated by OPEC etc, as the primary energy source.

snowwrestler|3 years ago

“Energy independence” just means that energy does not give other nations significant leverage over us.

Isolated self-sufficiency is one way to achieve that, but so is a balanced book of imports and production.

The U.S. today is more energy independent than in the past. To be specific, OPEC cannot do to the U.S. today what it did in the 1970s because they have far less pricing power. As they cut supply to raise prices, domestic fracking projects go back into the black and we increase supply.

I fully support transitioning to renewable energy sources, but it’s not necessary for energy independence. That is one of the least compelling reasons to change.