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zardinality | 3 years ago

Sinovac is effective to omicron but only with the third booster. In contrast, Pfizer is almost as effective as sinovac with merely two shots in preventing the COVID. So the problem there first is not why they don't import Pfizer, it is why they do not even have sinovac booster.

The answer here is simple: the government do not enforce anybody to get vaccinated. No one. If you missed a corona test at 7am you might be grounded for the rest of week, but if you don't get any vaccine nobody cares. I got two shots of Pfizer not recorded in China, and no one comes to my place like when they want to test you.

Plus there are sporadic side symptoms getting a shot, like arm sore and allergy, some even last to now. Plus plus, for most of people they don't see virus around. So the incentive is zero.

You probably don't have to right to travel freely, but you have the right to not get an injection in China. FWIW.

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Ancapistani|3 years ago

> You probably don't have to right to travel freely, but you have the right to not get an injection in China. FWIW.

It sounds like you're either Chinese, or have close ties there.

For context, I live in the Southern US. I've not been vaccinated due to a medical concern that's shared with my doctor. My normal doctor is aggressively anti-COVID-vaccine, so I got a second opinion just in case, and concluded that while it probably wouldn't hurt me significantly... there is a chance of side effects that is within an order of magnitude of the chance that I will eventually develop a very severe case of COVID. I've already had COVID once - almost certainly the Delta variant - so the chances of my developing a severe case are very low anyhow.

I'm able to travel freely, and until very recently no one around me has any idea whether or not I've been vaccinated. The only change to that is that I'm taking a trip across the country for work in the next couple of months, and I had to get a doctor's note for my employer to release them of liability should I catch COVID and die as a result of that trip.

In short, I don't see this as a choice between being able to travel freely or being forced to take the vaccine. It's more nuanced than that.

zardinality|3 years ago

I completely agree with the point you made, as in the choice is much more nuanced, and you do not have to guess my position by the punchline. I never thought of US, in fact I do not know the vaccine policy there. If I was thinking some country while I wrote the comments that would be EU from 2021, when people have to endured some months of inconvenience for not taking any shot. I know some anti-vaxxers even bought virus from other country so that they did not need the vax pass.

zardinality|3 years ago

Ok I now recall some counterpoints I only heard from my family. In the local community, community workers do visit the seniors to sell off vaccines. So that indeed prove the government did not forget this part. But they certainly not enforce it. To think in other ways, if they should enforced it, maybe it will be even an earlier disaster.