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morganvachon | 3 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly in principle, but the reality is that it's nearly impossible to escape Google getting their hands on yours and your correspondents' messages at some point. So many businesses (and third party email providers!) use Google's services on the back end, and many relays out there are owned by Google/Alphabet even if it's not readily apparent, that the only way to even attempt to avoid them is using encrypted email. Unless everyone you communicate with (including companies, governments, and other organizations) is willing to only communicate via encrypted email as well, it's a lost cause.

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sneak|3 years ago

No, the perfect is the enemy of the good here. "Email is insecure anyway and Google is big, therefore it's ok to give the adversary 100% of the plaintext" is not sound logic.

This is not some principled stance, it is a clear and practical command: stop using these services.

If your personal email address ends in @gmail.com, you are doing it wrong.

morganvachon|3 years ago

I'm not saying you shouldn't give up Google services; I did. I'm just saying the unfortunate reality is that you'll never fully escape them.