It's remarkable how ridiculous "agile" is when applied to any other field. In fact what's remarkable is that this ridiculousness isn't immediately obvious to otherwise-intelligent programmers.
Is it the programmers that push for it, though, usually? I think management (at least mine) likes the fine-grained control + reporting (and the /name/!), and the rest is catch as catch can.
The "agile software principles" look fairly similar to what I know of other creative cooperative endeavors, like filmmaking or modern music.
Is it a fault that programming turns out to be more like a creative cooperative art rather than a hard science? This seems far less ridiculous than pretending it has the rigor of "engineering". My old manager would seriously tell Oliver Stone he needed to be CMMI level 5 by the end of the year.
P.S., try to keep your comments on-topic: agile methods, not the intelligence of those who agree or disagree with them.
gaius|17 years ago
queensnake|17 years ago
mseebach|17 years ago
Agile is essentially lean production for software, and I've heard it's not so ridiculous.
ken|17 years ago
Is it a fault that programming turns out to be more like a creative cooperative art rather than a hard science? This seems far less ridiculous than pretending it has the rigor of "engineering". My old manager would seriously tell Oliver Stone he needed to be CMMI level 5 by the end of the year.
P.S., try to keep your comments on-topic: agile methods, not the intelligence of those who agree or disagree with them.
unknown|17 years ago
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zain|17 years ago