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jonmb | 3 years ago

Which is amusing since students from those A-list schools are also cheating.

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nikanj|3 years ago

But the A-list schools have a brand to protect, and at least try to curb the cheating.

The bottom-of-the-barrel diploma mills don’t give a damn, as long as they don’t face the threat of losing official status.

rvba|3 years ago

It is an interesting question:

When we look at the "best" schools really the best since they teach so well? Or maybe they are the best, since they got a brand early and simply collect the best candidates? Those best candidates would be the best students/more successful in later life even if they went to a mediocre university?

Obviously the better universities probably are better at teaching, but I still wonder how much depends on the quality of students that they accept. Also in the absolute top universities, lots of students come from "old" wealth - and are destined to inherit money and positions from their parents.

Obviously it doesnt make sense to send a kid to a bad university, because it is probably bad (bad teachers, bad students), but I wonder if those "good" universities are really that good due to own actions.

jonmb|3 years ago

Agreed they have a brand to protect and that we shouldn't expect much from any university that could be described as a diploma mill.

Though I'm not confident that A-list schools are any better at curbing the cheating than an average university.

Just looking at some of the replies in this thread from people who were students and TAs at A-list schools, and from other conversations I've seen about this, they describe that cheating is rampant at prestigious schools too.