> One could argue that Israel is running a system of apartheid against Palestinians and a campaign of ethnic cleansing and last I checked that's considered a crime against humanity.
I am aware of the long-running issues, especially regarding land ownership, and still there is a clear-cut distinction between I/P and China: in Israel/Palestine, both sides have legitimate historical claims won by conquest, colonialism, the breakup of colonialism and purchase over the last decades - and as the recent situation in Sheikh Jarrah showed, the respective parties have the right and ability to be heard in front of a legitimate court [1]. In Tibet and Xinjiang, the situation is different - China is exterminating the indigenous population and replacing it with ethnic Han chinese, with the affected having no way to appeal anything at a court, in fact even speaking publicly about their grievances has led to people being forcibly disappeared into gulags.
> Israel can be considered an "active, healthy democracy" if you so happen to be Jewish, not so for anyone else.
As said, the situation of the Palestinians in Palestinian territory is a democracy at least on paper - the Hamas and Fatah rulers refusing to hold votes is not the fault of Israel, and in fact Israel has attempted multiple times by withholding funding to pressure Hamas and Fatah to listen to the will of the people.
People of Palestine heritage with legitimate Israeli citizenship or residency enjoy the same set of rights that Jewish Israeli citizens do, with Arab-heritage people having served in the highest positions of justice [1] and in politics with Ra'am being a part of the government coalition.
> No, one couldn't argue that. It has no basis in reality whatsoever. Certainly there are facts that various vested interests like to spin in a way as deleterious to Israel as possible, but that's not the same as facts that actually support such vile claims.
Yes, it can. Both Amnesty International and B'tselem have both accused Israel of the crimes of Apartheid. The documented evidence is plentiful.
> Again false. Israel has had arabs citizens in its governments, in the high court, bedouin as high-ranking army officers, and other positions of power, influence and authority for decades.
unknown|3 years ago
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mschuster91|3 years ago
I am aware of the long-running issues, especially regarding land ownership, and still there is a clear-cut distinction between I/P and China: in Israel/Palestine, both sides have legitimate historical claims won by conquest, colonialism, the breakup of colonialism and purchase over the last decades - and as the recent situation in Sheikh Jarrah showed, the respective parties have the right and ability to be heard in front of a legitimate court [1]. In Tibet and Xinjiang, the situation is different - China is exterminating the indigenous population and replacing it with ethnic Han chinese, with the affected having no way to appeal anything at a court, in fact even speaking publicly about their grievances has led to people being forcibly disappeared into gulags.
> Israel can be considered an "active, healthy democracy" if you so happen to be Jewish, not so for anyone else.
As said, the situation of the Palestinians in Palestinian territory is a democracy at least on paper - the Hamas and Fatah rulers refusing to hold votes is not the fault of Israel, and in fact Israel has attempted multiple times by withholding funding to pressure Hamas and Fatah to listen to the will of the people.
People of Palestine heritage with legitimate Israeli citizenship or residency enjoy the same set of rights that Jewish Israeli citizens do, with Arab-heritage people having served in the highest positions of justice [1] and in politics with Ra'am being a part of the government coalition.
[1] https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/asien/israel-zwangsraeumun...
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salim_Joubran
tome|3 years ago
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subliminalpanda|3 years ago
Yes, it can. Both Amnesty International and B'tselem have both accused Israel of the crimes of Apartheid. The documented evidence is plentiful.
> Again false. Israel has had arabs citizens in its governments, in the high court, bedouin as high-ranking army officers, and other positions of power, influence and authority for decades.
Again, always in the minority.