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Hellicio | 3 years ago

Mine is genetic.

I have very similiar values than my mother.

So i'mnot sure if / how your theory is correct or not.

Also there are a lot of normal people in the world who live outside and also don't have perfect eye sight at all. This goes back a long time.

Can you also elaborate on your 2 diopter difference between red and blue light? For one i find that number very very big but i'm very good in seeing full color without any chromatic aberration.

The effect of your theory would need to be less relevant than other factors.

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tominous|3 years ago

Not denying that there are many ways in which development can go wrong, whether that's genetic or the environment. What I'm responding to is the sudden change seen in many populations as per the article.

Re: the chromatic aberration spread, see e.g. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3716229/

They measured 1.82 diopters between 420nm and 660nm. Visible light is a bit wider, 380nm to 720nm, so 2 diopters is about right.

You easily can see this in a dark data centre. If your vision is perfectly corrected (which normally means perfect for red-green light) you won't be able to focus on a blue LED unless you are about 50cm away.

californical|3 years ago

Huh, I always wondered why blue LEDs that were further away would be hard to look at & make me dizzy, that’s crazy!

thaumasiotes|3 years ago

> Mine is genetic.

> I have very simil[a]r values than my mother.

Well, everything is genetic. The amount of sunlight you're exposed to is no less a genetic effect than how tall you grow to be. Without genes, you wouldn't have any behaviors or phenotypes at all.

So the interesting question is not "is this phenomenon genetic?", because the answer to that is always "yes". The interesting question is "what can influence this phenomenon?". In this case, we already know that (1) within a given culture, genetics are a strong predictor for myopia; and (2) once you do a cross-cultural comparison, the effect of culture absolutely overwhelms genetic measurements. Most people who become nearsighted in modern cultures would never become nearsighted in premodern cultures.

throwaway202022|3 years ago

This is 100% true. Genetic predisposition to something != inevitability.

modeless|3 years ago

Genes can cause or prevent myopia. However, genes do not spread rapidly and therefore cannot cause an epidemic. Obviously environmental factors are the major cause.

ymolodtsov|3 years ago

I think there's genetic predisposition but unless you have a separate disease, myopia is unlikely to just emerge out of thin air. There's probably something that we do that harms our ways and the studies point to the time outside as the key factor (screen time was just a correlation).