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26 points| edent | 3 years ago |shkspr.mobi | reply

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[+] photochemsyn|3 years ago|reply
The one question I had reading this was... why then travel to the foreign country? You're enmeshed in the same basic experience you had in your domestic country, except you had to sit in a plane or on a train for hours to get there.

I would recommend, every once in a while, a complete disconnect. Tell people you'll be out of touch for a week, entirely. Get a topological map of an area, get a compass, get an altimeter, and get a GPS satellite reciever (no, not a cell phone, a device that GPS-triangulates your latitude/longitude from GPS satellite signals) so you can see where you are on your topo map. Carry cash only. The location could be a wilderness area that you backpack into, a small town on the seaside with a hotel reservation set aside for you, something like that. Walk around, read a book, take photos on a camera with no internet connectivity to look at later, write in your journal, eat a meal.

Terrifying thought, isn't it? Separation anxiety is a thing, in the digitally connected world.

[+] edent|3 years ago|reply
What makes you think I didn't do all of that?

I went to cool museums. Drank beers I'd never heard of. Ate weird new foods. And wandered down cool side streets.

Most of the places were card only - and carrying cash is expensive. I read books in a park, chatted with locals. Wrote a blog post.

I used to do all that too, before GPS and smartphones. This way is much better for me.

[+] martythemaniak|3 years ago|reply
Is finding this "terrifying" a young people thing? I'm mostly confused by this, because it's both very ordinary and rather nonsensical.

First, backpacking in the wilderness with a topographical map is a vastly, vastly different experience than staying a random town, where you have access to anything. Also, why use GPS and stare at a screen instead of you know, locating yourself using the trail markers, ridges, etc? Is eating a meal and reading a book something people don't do all the time? Also, what camera is this? A phone with airplane mode on? Are you not allowed to store the pictures online, is a physical media transfer required, what's going on? What role does cash play here? I'm really confused.

[+] JasonFruit|3 years ago|reply
Terrifying? It sounds thrilling!
[+] immigrantheart|3 years ago|reply
Technology gives, and technology takes away. That's what Neil Postman wrote in his book "Technopoly" and "Amusing Ourselves to Death".

This modern world isn't without its flaws, but the old world wasn't that rubbish either.

You only think it is good because you are the one of the winners chosen by the technologies.

[+] geysersam|3 years ago|reply
Arguably there are a lot more winners than losers. Not sure who loses from having a good map application in a foreign country.
[+] edent|3 years ago|reply
I'm genuinely curious - did you read the penultimate paragraph of my post?
[+] theandrewbailey|3 years ago|reply
Most of that's great until the power goes out. Or DNS/Cloudflare has issues. Or someone fat-fingered a router config. Or a construction crew/cargo ship breaks a major optical cable. Or an attack happens and everyone overloads the networks. Or bad people steal the databases. Or a government decides to track you.

The old world never had those problems.

[+] caiusdurling|3 years ago|reply
The old world still works in those situations, but we have a better experience when the new world hasn’t experienced a fundamental failure.

Seems like a reasonable trade off to me.

[+] edent|3 years ago|reply
Well, it depends how you want to define those problems. Paper records got wet, or burned away. Gas wasn't always available for street lights. Forged coinage was a problem - as was bribery and corruption.

So we're trading problems - but I know which world I prefer.

[+] JasonFruit|3 years ago|reply
I loved the feeling of going somewhere, and nobody knew who I was or where I came from. Now, it's almost impossible to travel across town without a modestly-motivated person being able to find out about it. Does nobody else recognize the sacrifice of anonymity as a loss?
[+] jacknews|3 years ago|reply
I'm not sure if this is subtle satire, or not.

The picture presented is very convenient living, but is it life?

[+] geysersam|3 years ago|reply
Sure it is! The blog post focused a lot on the phone fibbing, but I'm sure in between those episodes the traveler had new exciting experiences.
[+] teddyh|3 years ago|reply
> I have an IP address, therefore I am.

But he doesn’t. He only has a NAT:ed address.

[+] AtlasBarfed|3 years ago|reply
well if it's a phone, it's probably IPV6.
[+] EarthLaunch|3 years ago|reply
It is magical. But the modern world, also:

  I handed over my passport to the border guard.
  my various devices happily slurped up the bits
  My phone immediately latched on to a dozen satellites
  I have an IP address, therefore I am.
  An army of volunteers had already mapped the city
  the next bus was snagged in traffic
  I didn't fancy walking through an unfamiliar city.
  useless to a thief - unless they force me to unlock it
  pickpockets operated in that area
  The conversation with the taxi driver was a little stilted.
  noting which standard allergens were present in each dish
  verified that I was vaccinated against you-know-what
  knew to wake me at 07:30 local time.  The next morning, as I entered the office where I'd be working
Though all of this basically existed in the past in other forms.