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eggsbenedict | 3 years ago

Nazi Russia? Not once, but twice?

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trhway|3 years ago

Nazism = totalitarian fascist state plus political nationalism. Fascist Italy and Spain weren't nazist for example, while Germany was and Russia today is.

Informally that specific flavor of the Russian Nazi ideology is called "rashism".

nl|3 years ago

History doesn't repeat but it echos.

I don't know if trying to brand what is happening in Russia today as Nazism is useful. It seems to me that trying to define Nazism while ignoring the cult of Hitler is fruitless.

Even during WW2 the closest clone-regimes of Nazi Germany (I'm thinking of maybe the Ustaše led Nezavisna Država Hrvatska) are generally classed as facist, [ultra]nationalist, racist and expansionist but not Nazi despite their similarities[1] - because the party itself wasn't called the Nazi party.

I think Russia falls into a similar space.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e

bryanrasmussen|3 years ago

Pretty sure Mussolini was a political nationalist type of guy, as was the movement he founded. I mean his whole schtick was making the Mediterranean an Italian sea, the way it was in days of Rome.

yywwbbn|3 years ago

The Francoist regime was generally much more oppressive towards internal opposition groups than modern Russia. And as fucked up as the Russian invasion of Ukraine is the number of civilian casualties there is unlikely to ever reach the number of people the Italians killed in Ethiopia (especially if we look at the proportion of total population). But I guess since they were the wrong skin color we can divide the number by 10 or so?