There is no news here. All it says is that they've ported it to the iPhone hardware (not just the simulator, as they announced in June). And Apple has promised them nothing.
This prompted me to write an email to Steve Jobs ([email protected] apparently actually reads all his email) as a nearly 20-year Mac (and now iPhone) ISV, begging him to stand firm and refuse to allow any kind of Flash technology on the phone.
Flash flies in the face of all open Internet standards, and is a huge resource hog. Flash is Adobe's ploy to build an alternative OS that makes Windows and Mac OS irrelevant. Why should Apple give Adobe any ground on which to stand?
Obviously, Flash on iPhone is in Adobe's interests, and against Apple's interests.
But in terms of consumer interests, is it such a bad thing? There are three posts in favor of Flash on the iPhone here and as of this posting, they have all been downmodded to -1. Assuming they are legit opinions, I don't understand the Flash hate.
In the face of standards, fine. But knowing that the consumer doesn't care about standards, the ability for a Flash application to appear consistent across platforms, which is plain drudgery in HTML now (and given IE6's prevalence, will last for a good while, like it or not), I can see downsides, but it doesn't look overwhelmingly bad.
Or, would you explain the principle argument against it, aside of the standards bit?
Speaking pragmatically, what should people be using for interactive visuals on the web? I used Flash to create Stormpulse.com ... and I can't help but notice that I've never seen a complex GMaps application run fast.
Couldn't Adobe just make the Flash runtime available as a free download from the App Store in the interim. Maybe even an AIR-like runtime -- scaled down for performance. Obviously, Adobe would like full integration with the browser, but a downloadable runtime could at least be available for those who develop Flash content.
That is why they need Apple's blessing. They can still get the player itself working as a standalone app so when Apple says it's okay, they can integrate it with Mobile Safari and roll it out.
[+] [-] cpr|17 years ago|reply
This prompted me to write an email to Steve Jobs ([email protected] apparently actually reads all his email) as a nearly 20-year Mac (and now iPhone) ISV, begging him to stand firm and refuse to allow any kind of Flash technology on the phone.
Flash flies in the face of all open Internet standards, and is a huge resource hog. Flash is Adobe's ploy to build an alternative OS that makes Windows and Mac OS irrelevant. Why should Apple give Adobe any ground on which to stand?
Also see http://counternotions.com/2008/06/17/flash-iphone/ .
[+] [-] whacked_new|17 years ago|reply
But in terms of consumer interests, is it such a bad thing? There are three posts in favor of Flash on the iPhone here and as of this posting, they have all been downmodded to -1. Assuming they are legit opinions, I don't understand the Flash hate.
In the face of standards, fine. But knowing that the consumer doesn't care about standards, the ability for a Flash application to appear consistent across platforms, which is plain drudgery in HTML now (and given IE6's prevalence, will last for a good while, like it or not), I can see downsides, but it doesn't look overwhelmingly bad.
Or, would you explain the principle argument against it, aside of the standards bit?
[+] [-] wensing|17 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] emmett|17 years ago|reply
Hm...that's a pretty good idea, actually. I wonder how hard it would be.
[+] [-] thehigherlife|17 years ago|reply
any one got any ideas?
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