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LG 28-inch 16:18 DualUp Monitor

326 points| jqcoffey | 3 years ago |lg.com

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[+] SergeAx|3 years ago|reply
This is a perfect one for crypto traders! These days they should rotate their 16:9 vertically to see the full depth of assets plunged. Now they will have this and see much longer history at the same time.
[+] ComputerGuru|3 years ago|reply
I’ve been looking for a replacement for my 16:10 HP zr30w with either high-dpi or high-fps (not that this is particularly either) and have been coming up high-and-dry. This looks like an alternative worth exploring instead of the garbage 16:9 flooding the market with unusable high-dpi real estate.

But it doesn’t have VESA? I’m all for the “save desk space” mantra that’s plastered all over their marketing materials, but my solution was a wall/stud-mounted gas spring fully-articulated VESA mount that I’ve used across several monitors. I definitely don’t want a desk-clamped alternative that will flatter and shake as I type vigorously on my mechanical keyboard (on anything that isn’t a solid, handcrafted wood desk that takes four people to move).

[+] ravis11|3 years ago|reply
I'm pretty sure it has a Vesa mount. Their specs say wall-mountable 100x100 and other sites say its a Vesa 100x100 mount.
[+] locofocos|3 years ago|reply
I'm using the included monitor stand. The monitor definitely can move relative to my desk if I shake my desk, but it's noticeably sturdier than a cheap (but highly rated) monitor arm from Amazon. I'm personally pleased using the monitor stand.
[+] js2|3 years ago|reply
I've been using a 32" 16:9 4K monitor (BenQ BL3201PH) for years. The biggest improvement I've made recently was putting it on a proper monitor arm. OMG, what a sea change being able to raise, lower, bring forward, push back the monitor throughout the day.

I have a fixed standing desk with a tall bar-stool type chair I use for resting at times. I'm 50, but even with glasses I use just for editing (they are optimized for bringing into focus things at arms distance) I have the monitor relatively close to use it at the resolution and font-sizes I like. This means if I'm working on editing something toward the bottom or top of the monitor I'll often have to adjust its height so that I'm not tilting my head too far down or up. The monitor arm just makes that so easy.

After a couple tries, I found a knock-off of the Fully Jarvis arm that works well, the WALI GSM001XL:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NLMLLT6/

Anyway, this LG is neat, but my 32" is already at the height limit I'd want for a monitor. I feel like this LG dual setup I'd need to have too far way to see the full view comfortably, which would mean running everything at larger font sizes, so I'm not sure it makes sense.

[+] nickjj|3 years ago|reply
Do you run your 32" 4k monitor at 100% native scaling? If so how far away do you keep the monitor from your eyes?
[+] user_7832|3 years ago|reply
On a similar note, does anyone know of a squarish monitor that doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and preferably has a good color gamut coverage?

There was an 1920*1920 monitor (https://www.inputmag.com/reviews/square-monitor-eizo-flexsca...) but that's over 1k USD :(

There are other nice displays like Huawei's Mateview at 3000*2000 but nothing costs less than ~550-600$/€. It's a bit of a pity because you can get a decent 1080p or even 1440p monitor for much less.

Fyi I had written a comment some time back on how to make your own monitor, using Panelook but that also isn't very cheap (edit here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30422163)

[+] folkhack|3 years ago|reply
I run the EIZO you linked and love it... since I'm such a fan of this monitor I've always kept an eye out for anything more affordable.

Unfortunately, this LG is the first and only thing that I've seen that comes close with a <$1k price tag... I'm considering picking this up to have as a backup when my EIZO finally dies.

My specs are 1:1 or as-close as I can get.

[+] pbreit|3 years ago|reply
I much prefer 2560 x 1440 to the standard issue 1080p and there are lots of inexpensive options.
[+] pedrocr|3 years ago|reply
If what you value is vertical space/resolution why not run a 4K monitor vertically? You can either use the full resolution or crop at whatever vertical space you prefer.
[+] saaaaaam|3 years ago|reply
The Huawei Mateview is exceptional. I was bothered by the price but eventually got one on sale. It’s so good I’m buying another at full price. (Unless it comes on sale again!)
[+] akdor1154|3 years ago|reply
Last time i looked you can still pick up the odd 4:3 1280*1024 dell ips on ebay, i have one as a secondary and it works quite well.
[+] coryrc|3 years ago|reply
Find an old Trinitron :)
[+] vehemenz|3 years ago|reply
It's nice to see large manufacturers break out of the 16:9 mold, although I think 4:3, 3:2, or 5:4 would be better for most users.

Unfortunately, LG is letting the supply chain dictate panel size for their product team, instead of the other way around. This is no doubt a byproduct of their decision to stop building their own panels in 2020.

[+] lambdaba|3 years ago|reply
3:2 is ideal, Microsoft's Surface Book series have it
[+] iLoveOncall|3 years ago|reply
I would say this is very far from "breaking out of the 16:9 mold".

You can clearly say that the vast majority of the product pictures instead present it as a 2x16:9. Most of the text is also selling it as a replacement for a double monitor setup.

[+] cbozeman|3 years ago|reply
Jesus Christ, why did they stop building their own panels??

No one had panel quality like LG... :(

[+] ThatMedicIsASpy|3 years ago|reply
i would not say 16:9 stacked on top of each other is breaking out of 16:9
[+] kelsolaar|3 years ago|reply
Where did you read that they stopped producing their own panels?
[+] kposehn|3 years ago|reply
I’ve had one of these for a few weeks and am returning it. Here’s my take:

- The aspect ratio is great when rotated 90 degrees. I really liked having more vertical room for coding and documents.

- Screen scaling with Mac OS does not work well. I’ve been using BetterDisplay to address this but it still suffers from lag, banding and pixelation.

As a result I’m returning and getting a BenQ 32” 4K. If the scaling issues on mac are addressed later on I may revisit it.

[+] alin23|3 years ago|reply
Looks like some users of Lunar (https://lunar.fyi) are already using this monitor: https://files.alinpanaitiu.com/6a7515174ddd729a3df47063ee760...

Some notable data points:

    - supports DDC brightness control (controlling the real brightness of the monitor using Lunar on Mac, TwinkleTray on Windows or ddcutil on Linux)
    - supports DDC volume control
    - supports Lunar's XDR Brightness feature (https://lunar.fyi/#xdr) which means that in HDR mode the full brightness of the display can be unlocked and used for SDR content
        - although the specs page reports a typical brightness of 300nits so not sure if this has any effect
    - it isn't recognized as HiDPI by macOS (this used to cause blurry text, not sure if this is the case here but BetterDisplay is a thing these days so not an issue)
If you want to dig deeper, you can find the same data here: https://db.lunar.fyi

And here's the query I used:

    SELECT
        name,
        ddc,
        "canChangeVolume",
        orientation,
        width,
        height,
        "dotsPerInch",
        "maxEDR",
        "potentialEDR",
        "refreshRate",
        "isHiDPI",
        "isRetina", 
        "isSmartDisplay",
         ("kCGDisplayID" <= 10) as "appleSilicon", -- M1 assigns IDs from 2 to 10, Intel uses much larger IDs
        *
    FROM
        displays
    WHERE
        name ILIKE '%SDQHD%'
        AND "DisplayProductID" != 0 -- Filter out those in a semi-connected state
[+] kposehn|3 years ago|reply
I used Better Display with it (very useful tool) but it only partially improved the scaling instead of resolving entirely. It still has banding, jagged edges and some lag.
[+] wongarsu|3 years ago|reply
I find panning my eyes left and right to other monitors more natural than up and down, and I think most ergonomics experts would agree. As such a 32:9 widescreen seems preferable to a 16:8. But if you are pressed for space, either because of small desks or because of everything else going on on your desk (people who work not only in the virtual world) this seems like a great compromise.
[+] sbf501|3 years ago|reply
My cervical vertebrae are cowering in fear. I'd rather twist left to right and put the burden on muscles, than over-articulate my neck.
[+] willio58|3 years ago|reply
I’ve been using a vertical monitor recently and I have to say I haven’t noticed any pain. I don’t tend to look up and down with my head, I simply move my eyes up and down
[+] dominotw|3 years ago|reply
I think most of ppl have the opposite problem called "nerd neck" from looking down all the time while using phone, laptop ect. This could be a nice antidote to that :D .
[+] arghwhat|3 years ago|reply
You cervical vertebrae are likely covering in fear due to significant underutilization.
[+] make3|3 years ago|reply
can't you just move your eyes
[+] iblaine|3 years ago|reply
In my experience, 27" monitors on top of each other will hurt your neck and/or eyes, and side by side is more comfortable.
[+] akersten|3 years ago|reply
They're still doing the thing where if you want to wall mount it, you've got to punch a hole in your drywall for the cables to have enough room to exit straight out the back of the monitor. Or hope that some cheap 90-degree noname adapter supports the latest version of DisplayPort that you want. I stopped buying this brand of monitor because of this frustration.
[+] CoastalCoder|3 years ago|reply
Do you mean wall-mount I'm general, or do you mean wall-mounting with no gap between the chassis and the wall?

Because if you allow a gap, there are plenty of VESA-compatible mounting kits that solve the problem.

[+] aeyes|3 years ago|reply
Is there no cable with a 90 degree plug on the market?
[+] tokamak-teapot|3 years ago|reply
Or fix a piece of board to the wall and fix the monitor to that.
[+] JimRoepcke|3 years ago|reply
I received one last week. Works great on my M1 MBP. I have a 16:9 monitor above the MBP and the LG to the right of it, but now I want to get a keyboard, trackpad and webcam so I can swap the positions of the monitors and have the LG as my main monitor.

My only complaint is it’s not as wide as a 27” monitor despite having the same resolution as Thunderbolt Displays / 27” iMacs. So the pixels are smaller. The width is closer to a 24” 16:9.

But I love the stand, and everything else about it.

[+] aviditas|3 years ago|reply
Yes! The stand is really great; I have mine on an adjustable height desk and it takes up so little space. Which is perfect as I have so little space to work with. I got it recently and for me it's spot on as my main monitor. The built-in two device kvm saves me so much time. I can't speak to the resolution woes as I was using two very, very old monitors at home so I've just been basking in the glow of using something made recently. I've been enjoying the vertical space for tasks like going through logs/giant spreadsheets and then switching to the dual monitor mode for the usual multi-tasking. I've used dual 32in curved fancy monitors at the office before and found that I would just use a fourth of the real estate available. My brain prefers the vertical space over the horizontal.
[+] kposehn|3 years ago|reply
Were you able to get proper hidpi scaling on it without artifacts/blurriness or are you just letting it run at native scaling?
[+] pcurve|3 years ago|reply
It's definitely smaller than I was expecting. 18.2" x 19"

My 27" display is almost 25" wide.

[+] lvass|3 years ago|reply
This shares an unfortunately common flaw with most monitors in the market, at 137.6 PPI, it'll likely require fractional scaling.
[+] orthoxerox|3 years ago|reply
I wish USB-C single cable solution would become standard on all screens, along with a built-in USB/BT hub. Then we could revisit the idea of thumbstick PCs. I am not a big fan of laptops and would gladly carry a Mars bar-sized computer with me instead.
[+] jvolkman|3 years ago|reply
I've been using 43 inch 4k displays as monitors for 3 years now and don't think I could go back to anything smaller. Font size at native scaling is just right for me and there's plenty of real estate.
[+] seanp2k2|3 years ago|reply
Wake me up when they make one with the resolution of 2x 4K 16:10 screens. 8K 55” TVs are hard to beat as monitors too.
[+] zamadatix|3 years ago|reply
Having tried both setups I found 8k 55" to be problematic. At 200% scaling it's like 4 4k 27.5" displays which are already a bit under scales individually (160 dpi equivalent being displayed as normal) but much worse because you need to fit 4 within your vision on a flat plane. At 250% things are better but now you're effectively just got an extremely large 5k display with all of the troubles/inneficiencies of fractional scaling.

I found stacking 27"-32" sized displays in a 3x1 or 3x2 to be much more effective. This allows you to adjust the angles horizontally and vertically to where you sit so it's less of a flat plane and allows you to pick 1440p or 2160p panels for each (depending on size you went with and money you want to spend) giving you the option to build to the size and resolution you want instead of the size and resolution you can fit using a single tv. For less than $2k you can get 6x 1440p@165hz displays and 3 dual height monitor stands so it also gives more bang for the buck. Well getting the same peak HDR brightness might cost you more, especially if you want that on all displays.

Not to mention 8k TVs try to do everything I their power to make the experience of just turning on and displaying the content directly and correctly impossible to do fully.

[+] Kudos|3 years ago|reply
I tried a 49" 4k, and it gave me neck pains unless I only used the middle half of it.
[+] jsjohnst|3 years ago|reply
Having had dual 5Ks for the past five years, I probably wouldn’t be excited even with it being 2x 4K. The bezels aren’t big enough to warrant the drop in resolution for something like this to me.