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jimbru | 3 years ago

For anyone interested in L. Reuteri, you can buy it in the U.S. as Gerber probiotic drops (https://medical.gerber.com/products/supplements/soothe-colic...). Marketed for babies but obviously works on adults too. Last I checked Gerber had an exclusive license on U.S. distribution of this bacterium—there’s a Swedish company, BioGaia, that IIRC is the original patent holder.

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fasteo|3 years ago

That's correct for BioGaia. In Europe, it is rather easy to buy.

"BioGaia Gastrus" contains 2 strains of L. Reuteri (DSM 17938 and ATCC PTA 6475)

I crush the tablets to make yogurt following Dr. Davis recipe in SuperGut [1]

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Super-Gut-Four-Week-Reprogram-Microbi...

oigursh|3 years ago

I have questions, please.

How long have you been eating the yoghurt? Do you use any other tablets/pills/etc to make it? Why make the yoghurt instead of just eating the pills? What do you think it's done for you?

reuteriq|3 years ago

Is it possible to introduce this to the body without buying it specifically? Or put another way, how did people get L. Reuteri without pharmaceutical/supplement companies growing it in labs?

sooheon|3 years ago

It is found all over the place in nature: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limosilactobacillus_reuteri

> It appears to be essentially ubiquitous in the animal kingdom, having been found in the gastrointestinal tracts and feces of healthy humans,[7] sheep, chickens,[8] pigs,[9] and rodents.[10] It is the only species to constitute a "major component" of the Lactobacillus species present in the gut of each of the tested host animals,[11] and each host seems to harbor its own specific strain of L. reuteri.[10][12] It is possible that L. reuteri contributes to the health of its host organism in some manner.[13]

The labs got it from nature, not the other way around.

TedDoesntTalk|3 years ago

The article says breast milk is one source. Don’t wean your babies to formula too early!

You can buy breast milk from lactating mothers on Craigslist. Good luck.

wil421|3 years ago

I know lactos are in the environment naturally. When I ferment peppers or other vegetables I lightly rinse them to make sure some bacteria is left. Eating raw fruits and vegetables would certainly pass some bacteria to the gut.

michael1999|3 years ago

They know someone who knows someone who swears their cousin had the best kefir, or a proper “Tibetan mushroom” complex. Supplement companies aren’t the devil.

parhamn|3 years ago

Thanks, I came to ask this. It seems like the probiotic market is largely a hit or miss. Reviews online are filled with people claiming their purchases failed milk culturing tests (I don't know if testing as such even works), claims that these bacteria can't survive on warehouse shelves, etc.

TedDoesntTalk|3 years ago

That’s why Visbiome ships in insulated packaging with ice packs. There’s even a color indicator that turns red if the contents exceed a temperature during shipping (and refunds are granted if this indicator is red when it receive the product). You then store in the freezer. Unfortunately, the product does not contain L. Reuteri.

candiddevmike|3 years ago

You mean the ones on Amazon are fake?

adrianN|3 years ago

The patent is for a particular strain that was used in experiments. I don't know how likely it is that closely related but unpatented strains that you can buy from different companies have a different effect.

ornornor|3 years ago

> You mean the ones on Amazon are fake?

That’s unheard of!