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oldjavacoder | 3 years ago

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LBJsPNS|3 years ago

Freedom to work for less.

Freedom to be exploited by their employer.

Yes, we get it. You're special. You're not like the rest of those... those... workers. You are capable of deluding yourself that your negotiating power is anywhere near that of any company you may want to be employed by or otherwise do business with. Which, of course is a delusion. Unions give workers, including you, power.

hellotomyrars|3 years ago

The union I am a member of more than doubled the wages of its members after its first 12 years of existence. Crucially it also ensures twice yearly cost of living adjustments.

Turns out if the Union wasn't there I'd have a lot less freedom in the form of disposable income. I prefer not living paycheck-to-paycheck, thanks.

sp332|3 years ago

Amazon has incredibly crappy working conditions and extremely high turnover. Even if you don't like unions on average, I don't see what they have to lose in this case.

willyt|3 years ago

A union is just a way to make a multilateral contract negotiation between one huge party and hundreds of thousands of very small parties into a bi-lateral contract negotiation between two equals, it’s a completely rational negotiating tactic in a pure capitalist system and it can only be prevented by restricting basic human rights to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of contract and the right to live without fear of violence.

zeroonetwothree|3 years ago

I agree completely as long as we also don’t start using state police power to enforce closed shops.

bombcar|3 years ago

The union just makes two huge parties, neither of which the employee has much choice about.

slater|3 years ago

No, they don’t.