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rootcage | 3 years ago

You mention that tesla and comma have similar technical infrastructure. Tesla is doing or has done many of the caveats you describe about other companies, can you dig deeper into Tesla as a competitor?

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kjksf|3 years ago

The big architectural (and business strategy) difference between Tesla and more or less everyone else (Waymo, Cruise, Apple...) is:

- doesn't rely on lidar

- doesn't rely on pre-mapping areas

- ships intermediary products vs. big bang approach of "100% self-driving or nothing"

- makes money on those intermediary products (vs. loosing money until the big bang)

- while everyone is using Deep Learning for solving the problem, I believe Tesla is betting on DL / AI harder than most

On those big points Comma is exactly like Tesla and unlike almost everyone else.

I'm not sure which caveats you meant.

AlotOfReading|3 years ago

I'm not sure what you mean by "big bang approach". There isn't a single company whose goal is 100% or nothing. Not cruise, nor waymo, nor anyone else. That's why they have things like remote assistance and incremental rollouts. Similarly, waymo and cruise are both making [small amounts of] money on their "intermediary" robotaxis right now.

JoshCole|3 years ago

What are the shared caveats you are thinking of?

The caveats that stood out to me were that he mentions: lidar usage inflating costs, targeting ride sharing as path to profitability, and using VC money to fund non-mission goals prior to profitability. Tesla doesn't use lidar, is already profitable without having targeted ride sharing as the path to that, and is already default alive and not dependent on VC money.