[Zealotux]

Can confirm this, I once installed a package on my Linux machine that wasn't approved by a multi-billion dollar company, my computer exploded.

[bena]

Browser toolbars. It's just going to be browser toolbars all over again.

Sure, you may not install them. You may be perfectly meticulous with what you install on your devices. But not everyone is.

[vesinisa]

Lots of the Apple walled garden stuff is certainly not about security but about artificially limiting competition. And I am sure you can continue to use e.g. Apple Safari browser. But people who want to use the device they already paid for to its full capability without artificial after-market limitations should be able to do so.

[bloppe]

Even if you choose to stick to only Apple's in-house services, you'll benefit from this regulation. Apple will be forced to compete on a level playing field with challengers, which will force them to lower their App Store fees to a reasonable level.

The only people who should be concerned are those over-exposed to Apple stock, but they're not getting any sympathy from me.

[AlbertoGP]

I understand the negative responses to your comment as I prefer the freedom to run whatever I want on my computers/devices, but I’d like to mention that I do see your point because we do not live in isolation:

If a friend or relative wants a phone, for now I can recommend them an iPhone and be free of the drama that would ensue if (when!) they installed any of those sketchy things you mention, which not only would for instance spy on their messages, but also get anything I send them in addition to my contact data. And then I’ll have to do technical support to mitigate the consequences.

Other situation when this freedom will be a problem would be peer/boss pressure to install some crap that they like to use for messaging for instance.

Unfortunately, others installing garbage in their computers/devices affects me too. That’s a social problem, and there is no simple solution for it.

I’d still choose freedom.

[alaric410]

The concept of "ecosystem" is anti-consumer and anti-progress. Ecosystems exist to protect monopolies like Apple from competition.

Also if Apple is so secure, why is there a celebrity iCloud hack almost every other day?

[simiones]

> Use a spyware voice assistant.

You already have Siri for that. All voice assistants are spyware.

[Semaphor]

> All voice assistants are spyware.

If anything, only cloud void assistants.

[RedShift1]

Then just keep using the Apple store and Apple pay.

[ben_w]

That's great until someone has an app I need and chooses to only make it available on a different store.

I'm not legally trained, so I hope they've thought of this and also have rules for these 3rd party app stores.

[skywal_l]

But you still can stick to apple walled garden if you want to. I am not sure what you are complaining about.

[PeterisP]

> Buy another phone if you wanna mess about.

Exactly, I should be able to buy another iPhone and mess about on it.

[ilikehurdles]

You can do all of this on MacOS and most (nearly all?) people still manage to stay safe.

[pdpi]

> Use an unsupported browser full of RCE vulns

While I sympathise with your overall sentiment, I have no reason to believe Firefox or Chrome would have any more RCE vulns than Safari does, and their respective engines not being deeply integrated with the OS potentially means one less vector for a hypothetical RCE to escalate privileges.

[j16sdiz]

It is not the big names like firefox or chrome. It's those cute colorful browser that bundles some outdated engine.

[iamnotarobotman]

> Install any malware. Install any Trojanized App Store full of warez and viruses. Use an unsupported browser full of RCE vulns. Use sketchy payment system that steals you card. Use a spyware voice assistant.

Correct. Malware and trojans, everywhere will be unleashed on the average user and will make the crypto wallet an obvious target for scammers and criminals to take payment with and steal the users crypto.

Wallets will be drained via modified, cracked apps or hack tools connecting to dodgy smart contracts, and payment providers will be using anonymous cryptocurrencies like Zcash, monero, mobilecoin (used in signal messenger) etc.

I can only see nothing but the same security issues on the desktop, but now made worse on phones enabling side-loading or alternative app stores.

[nathias]

just use the deault one?

[bigDinosaur]

* User any browser and browser engine and choose to make it default

You already can on e.g. iOS but you get a slow implementation if you use your own engine. Does this account for that?

[simiones]

No you can't. iOS doesn't allow apps that compile or interpret code at runtime.